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Derrick Henry is currently on pace for over 500 touches

Derrick Henry is currently on pace for over 500 touches

BarryLyndon145

Adamantium skeleton


Tanman7211

I think he’s a military android of the future that they’re testing out in the NFL.


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Financial-Year

My absolute favorite fantasy gif


HootingMandrill

what was it?


LocalTomatillo9395

The guy who won league last year offered me Henry for his late 22 first, chase Edmonds, and etienne (post injury). I’m 6-0 now and he’s 4-2. I still think he has a better roster than me but would be sweet to beat him with a big Henry game .


Teslatothemoonn

There’s normally plenty of those down the playoff stretch


LionsBSanders20

I hope you pulled the trigger on that. Henry is a league winner, especially for 6-0 teams with two assets that likely won't produce for you this year.


rosecitypeach

At this point the “sell Derrick Henry” shit makes no sense. Any team that was rebuilding would have already sold him. If you bought Derrick henry it’s because you are competing and you are probably still competing because you have Derrick henry. Who would sell now?


Teslatothemoonn

I sold him as a contender this off-season for CEH, Jeudy and Devonta Smith. Might not work out with the way CEH is playing but henry has to fall off at some point. He looks like a monster still but I was fine with the return I got at the time.


samolamim

That’s a pretty nice haul - Jeudy and DeVonta will be long term stars (WR2’s minimum, is my guess)


mahones403

It's only going to work out of they're both WR1s. Guy was a contender and gave up winning a championship so he could perpetually rebuild basically.


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Don't you know, everyone around here is in a perpetual rebuild! They've got WRs that will be starters for 10+ years! RBs are for scrubs (and people who actually want to win this season)


durpheusmawgg

Everyone around here is in a perpetual rebuild cause they're fucking dumb lol. I'm happy with ekeler, fournette, and cook tyvm lol


samolamim

I mean, it def hurts his chances this year but he could still be a contender. I’d assume if he was, he had more than Henry


Teslatothemoonn

I’m 6-0 and the clear favorite to win still with a ton of young depth, I’m not too worried about it. Henry is obviously still producing but I’d rather cash in on the value of a RB1 as long as I’m still able to compete. RB’s fall off quick and I think he might have a year or two like this left after this season but who knows maybe he’ll prove me wrong. I have barkley, Swift, CEH and Henderson


steamycreamybehemoth

I don't like that at all for you, but it might work out. Love jeudy though


SauceCastillo2

Henry might be the Lebron of the NFL, it’s possible that he has a few more huge years left after this one.


orangehorton

This sub, which is more concerned with value than winning a championship


Stiddy13

I’m rebuilding and would buy him in a heartbeat if he was for sale.


bch8

Serious question - why? It seems like it wouldn't be worth it for a team that is rebuilding.


Stiddy13

Because I think he’ll be better than any rookie I could draft for just as long as that rookie will be good. Henry’s not getting any smaller. That stiff arm will be devastating for as long as he plays, and he can lose a gear and still be damn fast for a 250 pound man. He’s not anywhere close to being finished. He’ll be an elite fantasy asset well into his thirties.


LionsBSanders20

Ignore the downvotes. I tend to agree with you. The whole "He isn't going to make it another 4-5 years with the amount of touches he gets" is an argument based solely on the assumption that Henry fits into the model of 'Standard NFL RB'. And if he did, I would agree with the commenter. However, I think at this point, Henry has proven through statistical analysis, performance metrics, and game tape that he should not be modeled by the 'Standard NFL RB'. Therefore, I am not willing to accept the standard RB cliff that most FF players anticipate for the position. IMO, Henry is a unicorn, a generational talent, future HOFer, and is playing the position of RB at a size and profile that no player in the NFL has ever successfully played the position at. It's entirely within the realm of outcomes that Henry does to the RB position that Brady has done to the QB position, with perhaps a slight adjustment to the overall performance due to the differences in the positions. And frankly, he's 27 turning 28 in January. Since the average shelf life of an NFL RB is now <3 years, I think you're absolutely correct in that having Henry right now is likely to net you more positive gains than most rookie RBs could.


Stiddy13

I’m loving the downvotes tbh. It’s exactly that kind of doubt that makes me think I may actually have a shot at landing him this off-season.


LionsBSanders20

Best of luck. I'm a Henry owner and I'd need a sizeable haul to part ways.


Squirrel_Apocalypse2

I have multiple shares of Henry but that's ridiculous. He isn't going to make it another 4-5 years with the amount of touches he gets, whereas Spiller/Hall have a high percentage chance of doing that.


incenso-apagado

> He isn't going to make it another 4-5 years with the amount of touches he gets Yes, he is.


Zupheal

tbf 4-5 years is into his 30s. I kind of agree with the previous poster, the trend lately seems to be about 1 contract on younger backs before they get dished off to the Jets or somewhere to die. Also, he's been carrying the same workload since he was like 16 and he's only had like 3 injuries. Granted he will start to wear down, but he could lose a good bit of speed and still be a killer short yardage back.


SquintzLombardi

First two years of college and the nfl he was seldom used. Alabama had studs in place Ingram maybe and when he came to Tennessee they had just traded for demarco Murray so he was a compliment until he left and then his third year it ramped up but with them still giving touches to Dion Lewis. Guys still got a ton of touches but he’s also bigger than 90 percent of the people he’s colliding with. when you see a car crash involving a huge truck it’s usually just got a fucked up bumper while the cars are totaled


Aristei

"He can't get that many touches and be good again." 2 months later after he's smashing even more. "Yeah well next year he will be broken." It's called outlier bros. You got 3-4 more years to keep pushing that goal post on him, meanwhile he'll be surpassing 8000 yards after they said he was done.


LionsBSanders20

>He isn't going to make it another 4-5 years with the amount of touches he gets I genuinely would like to know how you know that. Does Henry fit a RB model that I'm unaware of that features players with similar height, weight, speed, muscle mass, etc.? Because the statistician in me believes that he doesn't fit the mold of a standard NFL RB, and therefore, trying to predict his fate based on that model would more than likely fail.


Squirrel_Apocalypse2

Ever hear of Eddie George? He's the most comparable. Regardless, you don't bank on Henry lasting that long. Doesn't matter that he MIGHT, it's more likely he doesn't.


LionsBSanders20

So, a sample size of 1 in your model? That's poor math. I would rather ride Henry into a life of being a goal line back than potentially sell too early as a contender and miss multiple chances at championships, like the manager who sold him to me did. If I wasn't a contender, different story, I'd sell now. But otherwise, it's better to have Henry than pieces that can't help you win championships.


bch8

Huh interesting, thanks for answering. I definitely see your logic and it could be right. Not sure that there's any way to get to a definitive or certain position here, so I can't fault this. I do think it's true that people overvalue rookie RB's in the sense that it's really hard to account for career uncertainty in expected value. So given that, it makes sense that the more certain value of Henry could be better, even more so if you feel very confident that he's still got years in the tank. I've never done a full rebuild in a dynasty format to be honest (have only been in dynasty leagues a few years), but I still think I might rather have like three to four dart throws over Henry if I were just starting my rebuild today.


crackheadwilly

please do this and please come back in 3 years


rosecitypeach

If you’re rebuilding you can’t buy Henry because a contender will outbid you


Stiddy13

That’s probs true


Kxr1der

Not really, if you're rebuilding you probably have higher draft picks to trade away


Stiddy13

This is my strategy, actually. Wait a few months after the season and ask Henry’s owner if they’d rather have an “aging” Henry or their choice of Spiller/Hall. Hopefully being a few months removed from yet another ridiculous fantasy season will give him time to overthink Henry’s age and fall in love with a young guy. And if not I’ll be happy with Hall or Spiller lol


Thromkai

> if he was for sale. You'd ruin your team for years trying to acquire him. That makes no sense.


Stiddy13

I plan on going after him with my 1.01 after the season. Hardly a team killer. Just pointing out that there’s no good reason to sell Derrick Henry if you’re a rebuilder. He’s the piece to build around.


Thromkai

Out of genuine curiosity, how long do you think he'll be a feasible monster of an RB?


Stiddy13

35


pwtrash

You have to roll with Henry if you have him, but I'm glad I have Evans in dynasty. No human being - even Derrick Henry - can take this sort of pounding forever.


rosecitypeach

Evans is definitely a top 30 backup. If something ever happens to Henry the offense will probably just fall apart tbh


Tinmanred

Can’t win now forever. Sold off cook and Kamara personally as a contender going great so far it can definitely pay off if u moving to another contender


Geegs30

Sent the kitchen sink for him, don't feel bad about it.


AMP121212

How could you? He's a freight train out there.


literacola06

What did you pay? I'm curious.


Geegs30

12 Team SF. Zack Moss, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd, 2024 1st.


literacola06

Honestly doesn’t feel like much at all. He’s such a cheat code


glen_ko_ko

that's a huge underpay


Geegs30

First year dynasty player, so it felt like a lot to me. Glad to hear it :)


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owleabf

Counterpoints: Le'Veon Bell, Devonta Freeman, Todd Gurley, David Johnson Those were all top 5 guys at some point who fell off around 25-27


Mobius00

and who knows how long Derrick henry will play well. He has defied the doubters every step of the way and will probably continue to dominate past an age that any normal human could.


RossGarner

So the basis of your point is LaDanian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson. Literally the two most prolific fantasy running backs of all time. Do you actually think all the current top running backs will be equal to the best players we've ever seen at the position? There's no way Cook & Kamara & Henry & Zeke & CMC etc. will all match the extraordinary career lengths that AP & LT had. Trying to sell them now is because no one knows who will end up playing well into their late 20's. People want to avoid the downside risk of their players just evaporating into nothing like Gurleye, Lev Bell, David Johnson and tons of others former RB1 overall players did.


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RossGarner

Yes please keep going, because in in the years that these guys played there are literally hundreds of other running backs who burned out at 24/25/26/27 because the position is absolutely brutal and their longevity is special BECAUSE it is so rare. There likely will be 1-2 players in the current crop of top RBs who will play well into their late 20's, but the problem is no one has any idea who it is. The majority will simply fade into irrelevance, suddenly after hitting the age cliff. Selling now is trying to prevent the downside risk. For instance I sold Todd Gurley after his 2018 RB1 overall season. He was a great player, universally thought of as the RB1 everywhere, but RBs just break down, so I cashed out. I have zero regrets to doing that deal.


ConferenceLoud7035

Imagine your argument basically being "outliers exist" lol


CVogel26

If anyone is ever going to hit it; it’ll be him


AMP121212

Death, Taxes, and Henry getting 3 Tds when I play against him.


Tanman7211

Never thought I’d see Bengal’s face here lol


WhatIsACatch

Versatile media weapon


MrTrifectaWins

We should celebrate this. Let's do donut for touch so we can be as big as Henry.


rush0024

I get the age and touches, but this is not a normal football player. This guy is a complete freak. On a win now team going for a championship... he's basically untradeable.


c0rnfus3d

I stole Henry last year in my 14 team league. Offered a 1st and Gaskins. Seriously the best deal I've done!


D3F3AT

That owner has a family!! Holy shit, well done


c0rnfus3d

I just looked it up. I got Henry and Hines and shipped off a 2021 1st, 2nd and someone else's 2021 2nd. Also included Gaskins. Still, I won that deal.


literacola06

> That owner has a family!! Not anymore....they left him after they found out he sold DH for that.


D3F3AT

😂


deplorable_mike

I got his King Henry in my 12 teamer for my Rashad Penny, Michael Gallop and a 2021 first round pick #6. Fastest "accept" I've ever had,


Ham_PhD

I know this doesn't really have to do with the OP, but I dont see how Henry isn't top 3 in dynasty RB rankings.


Goop1995

He’s superhuman but age and the amount of touches he’s getting is ridiculous. I’m concerned about him long term but if you tryna win now, he’s definitely a guy to have.


Squirrel_Apocalypse2

Everyone saying his age doesn't are looking past the usage. Age may not matter but the amount of carries does. Henry is a great RB to have for another year or two, but I'm not banking on anything after that. Buy/Sell him based upon your team's competitive status over the next 2 years


bushboys122

As someone who won the ship with him last year, and now competing again, I will never sell him. I truly think he is a unicorn. Elite performance with Frank Gore longevity, at least that is what I choose to believe.


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bushboys122

Well as someone who is compeating, makes zero sense to trade him. Might as well ride him while he is the best rb in the league.


basedvato

I’m the same… holding until the wheels fall off. He won me the ship last year, and this year he has me a contender. My RB room is weak if he goes down, I’m lucky I got Javante Williams… he might turn to be a stud as wel to take over if King Henry slows down.


ConeConk

Age matters.


Stiddy13

This is the attitude I hope his owner in my league has. I will gladly take this “aging” RB off somebody’s hands lol


MrJusticeWargrave

With his touches and production who gives a fuck.


ConeConk

I don’t know man, people who are good at dynasty I guess.


MrJusticeWargrave

Clown comment


ConeConk

I agree.


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Ham_PhD

So is Derrick Henry


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nkthegreat13

If Tom Brady can do it, so can Henry. See you in 10 years


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Ham_PhD

Stop taking all these comments so seriously.


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reformedjm

Oof and now you’re projecting onto others


Ham_PhD

Never a good look is it


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Buffalo_rider01

See you in ten years


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Buffalo_rider01

Could be Joey Harrington goat could be


reformedjm

Almost as certifiably stupid as thinking someone seriously thinks Henry will be rushing for 1500 yards at age 37…


DrSpaceman856

Anyone concerned he’s peaking early this season? Usually the touches really go crazy in Dec, can he keep this up all year, especially given his last few years load on top?


aqphs

He’s at 750 rushing yards through 6 weeks. Of the 6 other players to ever run for 2000 yards, the best following rushing season was by Barry Sanders with 1,492 yards. What he’s doing is completely and totally unprecedented and there’s almost no way to predict what’s gonna happen down the stretch. Dudes an absolute freak


I_fell_on_a_dog

“He can’t maintain these touches and will fall off anytime now” -Every doubter for the last year now. Henry is the definition of built different. He doesn’t take many hits, mainly because people make business decisions to just wrap up or gang tackle and not try to lay him out. He doesn’t make many sharp cuts or agile runs, just a straight line runner which helps the injury concern front as well. There has literally never been an RB like Henry in the league. No one knows what he will do the rest of this season and the next few. All I know, is every offer I’ve seen for Henry is valuing him like a guy that’s soon to fall off, and for that reason, you let him retire on your team unless you’re fully rebuilding


JerBear_2008

So what is his value currently? Past that RB drop off age with extremely high volume. Still producing elite numbers and no injuries though.


IMDH2111

Meanwhile my RB’s get hurt after 3 touches.


GoHard_Brown

I’ve traded for him in multiple leagues… he’s shown that he is not built the average even HOF back. Most HOF backs are productive well into their 30s, there’s no reason to think Derrick can’t be either, based on what he’s shown us thus far. He’s anomalous. He is inevitable.


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planet_irata

Have him in a keeper league. Currently 5-1. Keeping for sure rest of this year, but need to decide if I keep him or trade him in the off-season. Keeper rules are: 3 keepers, one must be an outgoing rookie (any position), the other two can be any position but can't be the SAME position. Seems like the wheels must fall off eventually, but just how super-human is he?


throwawaycaffiend

Grown men literally do not want to tackle the man out of fear. Look at Micah Hyde on MNF. The cliff applies only to players who typically endure injuries throughout their career, as is natural for the position. Look at this man's workout routine. His calves are bigger than most players quads. Barring catastrophic injury, he will set the bar for his position.