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Wubbz50

Definitely not a click bait article


SWeAtY_BraTuKa

I fell for it for 2 seconds then I realised how rhetorical this title is. I feel stupid


Icy-Service9649

I fucking hated shotguns fuck shotguns -_-


gochesse

Germans in ww1 be like:


twili-midna

What an absolutely dumb article title. If you read the actual wording, they blamed it on their execution of the theme and their lack of innovation. To be clear, I’m not trying to defend Activision here. But that article title is just bad.


plafki

Im quite sure its easy to say like "our game sucks because ww2 is boring theme"


littlestevebrule

It's not a boring theme, it was just not the right time to go back to WW2. This isn't 2003 anymore. You can't make a WW2 game every year now.


plafki

The point is/was that if devs suck, u can always blame on something else.


ubn87

OP is worse then the article. Who post this shit without reading the article.


Total-Cereal

Specifically, Activision said (per the article) “The game’s World War II setting didn’t resonate with some of our community and we didn’t deliver as much innovation in the premium game as we would have liked”. I didn't buy it for those two specific reasons. I love WWII games, but I like authenticity with my WWII. I loved COD: WWII, at least the campaign mode and some of the multiplayer, and I thought the WWII theme was really well executed. Vanguard didn't get that right, plus the multiplayer was more of the same from what I played of the beta, so I passed. I'll probably pick it up years from now for cheap to play the single player story missions, just because I always do that with CoD games and there's probably some fun to be had.


Musaks

sadly, it isn't a bad title it does what it is supposed to do, it grabs your attention and makes you read the article ​ The main issue isn't that titles have gotten worse and worse, it is that people read articles less and less and think they know about a topic because they saw a few headlines


Biggzy10

There's a difference between a good, eye catching headline and blatantly lying. One requires talented writing, the other does not.


Moose_Nuts

We milked the cow dry and now there's no more milk! Stupid fucking cow!


Captainkirk05

More like they milked a dog and tried to sell it as cow milk. For clarification: I have never milked a dog or tried dog milk.


latinlobyx

maybe you have but you don't want to tell us.


ArrestDeathSantis

That definitely sounds like someone who tried and don't want to tell....


DarxMartyr

Drinking the milk of any animal that isn't human has always seemed baffling to me, but I won't drink my coffee without that shit.


clamdragon3

You put human milk in your coffee? I didn't think we had human farms.


VagabundoEstelar

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhishhhhhhhhh They dont known and we dont talking about that.


SuperfluousExcess

On the other hand. Pretty sure different species of animal have different things in them and so can be used for stuff. Read the other day that they were looking into the immune enhancers in human milk.


ConspicuouslyBland

Drinking human milk is even seen as gross by a lot of people.


Patrickownzya

Red rocket! Red rocket!


DarxMartyr

Godammit


AndringRasew

*"Suuure you didn't... You just played red rocket till they repeatedly blasted off. Gotcha'!"*


astrongineer

I have nipples. Can you milk me, Greg?


TheMightyWoofer

> More like they milked a dog and tried to sell it as cow milk. Or a goat with one teat ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Freethecrafts

Anything with nipples, eh?


Mongba36

I have nipples focker, can you milk me?


Particular-Knowledge

dilk


whitepplwithdreads

I find it funny you felt the need to clarify this. Like drinking liquids squeezed out a cows nipple is totally fine but of a dog's nipple is weird.


fappyday

I've got nipples, Activision. Can you milk me?


HalfPrime

it's iight


DonLindo

But you did see the relevant South Park episode


horridgoblyn

Were they milking a she dog, or a he dog?


CrispyMaker

Now they want to milk the "modern warfare" cow again and then blame it next year for not meeting their expected sales.


TheCaptNoname

Okay, then why not try different setting? Like Russo-Polish war, Russian Civil War, Cino-Soviet border conflict, Spanish Civil War, Finno-Soviet War/Winter War? Just asking


Biggzy10

Not marketable. Your average gamer doesn't know of those events and certainly won't be interested in a game that focuses on them.


joshuaoha

There's plenty of more material for awesome WWII COD games. They just screwed it up with Vanguard. Although I did enjoy some of the missions.


PickleTickleNoHomo

WWII 2/10, would not order again.


PM_ME_YOUR_NUDE_CAT

Wait spoiler alert?


requiemofchaos

5/10 for the Pacific Theater expansion. Great story and action, but too much water.


InnocentTailor

3/10 for the East. Great weapons and tons of vehicle choices, but disliked the snow and starvation.


SuperfluousExcess

All the german vehicles seem to be bugged


Commander_Beta

Nukes too OP.


FryingPan47

I cant wait for the sequel! History class is gonna be lit!


Original-Childhood

Damn you Hitler


JoeGasPump

Always world war 2, but never Korea or Vietnam!


ze_loler

Black ops 1 is set mostly in vietnam though


JoeGasPump

I forgot about that, but 10 years of seriously nasty conflict should get more than one game!


MEKK-the-MIGHTY

They've done WWII so much that hitler is directly responsible for at least a quarter of their sales Maybe do WWI for a change of pace


smr5000

Battlefield I was the last good Battlefield too in my opinion - all sorts of places to play *how you want*, whether it be commanding vehicles, sniping, holding a particular chokepoint, laying mines and breaching buildings - in the most brutal (in an in-your-face trench sense) war we've recorded to date It's stale because the format itself is stale - they revolutionized FPS but haven't brought anything really new to the table in years, Warzone filled a natural niche that we carved out for them. Call of Duty is too frenetic for me to even reliably follow, all the maps make me almost claustrophobic, and the perks, microtransactions and flair make it more *gamified*, sure, but I miss the historical realisms too that immerse me and suspend my disbelief.


imperiects

BF3 is my favorite. The Bad Company games before that were superb as well.


Two2Tango2

I used to be huge on battlefield. Come play Squad it's got what us plants crave


Super_Shotgun

No fast air make me sad :( Give warthog.


Tapkobuh

brrrrrrrrt


SayNoToStim

To me, BF1 felt really bland and the weapons felt really really meh, but it was so much better than what CoD tried. I'm a fan of historical weapons of that era and it was cool seeing a Lewis Gun or a Chauchat, but they all kinda felt of garbage to me. CoD when it comes to historical guns: "red dots in WWII? sure." "Stens? Yeah we totally know how those work"


SuperfluousExcess

Yeah. It felt a bit off to me, but i cant describe it. I honestly prefer modern weapons, and it actually really annoyed me because all the games around when i decided that i liked them were all ww1/2. Now theyre back to modern/futuristic but godawful


latinlobyx

hell no, battlefield V was great but the politically correct agenda and the twisted reality of that game practically killed it making the real last good battlefield "battlefield 4"


Bellica_Animi

What are you talking about PC agenda!!?!? There were millions of black queens in the SS


latinlobyx

Sure...


Resident-Comfort-108

Lol you clearly can’t read sarcasm


Pr0wzassin

what's wrong with bf5? well besides the prelaunch internet outcry bullshit


Super_Shotgun

Now? Nothing. But on release and for quite a while it had it's fair share of issues. It's problem now is just when they got it good EA killed it and moved the resources to 2042.


Rexberg-TheCommunist

the embarrassing virtual signalling and forced diversity in a fucking WW2 game were the biggest issues for me. People are a lot kinder to BF5 now than they otherwise would be had 2042 actually been good, but I can never forget just how awful the marketing was, as well as the months leading up to release, the post-release support for the game (or lack thereof) and the multitude of bugs that took the devs months to patch.


decrementsf

Invasion of Cuba with Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders. People don't even recall that war happened. Some novelty for a change. Good content does not require the scale of a world war.


latinlobyx

exactly, cold war times with f14, f5 planes and still decent weapons could make a great title, there's already COD Cold war out there but we all know that it fuckin sucks


Srlojohn

Do the barbary wars, now *that* could be fun.


LilShaver

Trench warfare for a video game? "Oh look! I've got trenchfoot again." "What do you mean I need to dig another 200 yds?"


Help_im_lost404

Trench digging simulator 2022


R_radical

Or just make a better game.


GigaNiko

There are plenty modern world events to base a shooter on. Or you can do alternative history, which would be even cooler We really don't need to go further in past


Super_Shotgun

I wonder what the date was when more people died in virtual WW2 than in real WW2. Specifically online multiplayer WW2 games.


MEKK-the-MIGHTY

Doubt it took more than a week


Nate2247

Man, I never really thought of it that way! I don’t know if that’s funny or depressing…


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Or desert storm? Korea? Ukraine 2022?


MEKK-the-MIGHTY

Maybe doing Ukraine is too soon, at least wait til the fighting dies out y'know


Salt_Winter5888

I mean we have Warzone's Verdansk (aka Donetsk)


moneyboiman

At least something like 5-10 years after the fighting, I think it would still be very insensitive to do it right after an armistice or agreement is found.


Super_Shotgun

Korea is the choice these clowns should have made years ago. Most of the guns are still WW2 but improved modernized models. The vehicles however were begining to get freaky and give us a taste of the cold war to come. M-41 Walker Bulldog tanks, Chafees, F-86 Sabres F-84 Thunder Jets. The F-86 Sabre vs the Mig 15 would be perfect in a BF game because those two fighters probably have the closest performance rivalry from any wars.


ms15710

Chosin Reservoir as a Rush/Operations map would be incredible.


ambermage

Every General killed is a DLC release.


latinlobyx

don't give any ideas to EA, because it's said that Russia has a lot of generals down


latinlobyx

no please, that shit fuckin sucks! not again with all the sword and shooting with all these 1 minute reload rifles


diadcm

WW1 is not nearly as interesting.


Majestic-Marcus

Hard disagree It’s much more complex politically, was the first industrial scale war, was the first use of tanks, was the first use of warplanes, was catastrophic in terms of the wastage of human life, trench warfare was horrific, first use of mass chemical warfare, huge variety of terrain and battlefields. Both world wars are extremely interesting, WW1 is just largely forgotten outside of the Somme.


TotallyNotAnAltAccc

Fucking Hitler man.


Dog_Get_Biscut

I hate that guy. Fucking weirdo loser.


TroglodytesAnonymous

Fuck this stupid title. I have no love for Activision, but they clearly blamed their lack of innovation and execution within the theme of WW2. Fuck *off* with the title.


Captainkirk05

It's because they did WWII *WRONG* Listening to people that find the setting of the largest war ever boring is idiocy. They had so much material they could work with to make it exciting and *plausible*. The story missions of CoD WW2 were some of the best in the franchise, but they couldn't figure out the multiplayer component well enough to stick. The devs lacked vision with Vanguard.


lolmont

Yeah I’m so tired of these alternate reality WW2 games. Just give me a COD 1 & 2 style campaign with modern graphics. Then give me WAW style multiplayer and I’m sure more people would eat it up, I don’t need Michael Bays WW2 in video game form.


Prankishmanx21

Honestly for me I was really hoping for something like world at war. I love the gritty feeling it had. I want my WWII FPS to be gory, I want bodies to pile up, I want blood, I want severed limbs. I want to feel like my character is going through hell right alongside his squad. I like the split second decisions you had to make in MW19. I really miss the multiple perspective thing old COD did. I wish they'd revisited north Africa. I haven't seen a game cover that part of the war in over a decade outside of sniper elite. Pearl harbor has been done to death as has Normandy but I've only seen one game cover the fall of the Philippines. No one ever covers Burma or China. Show the world the atrocities the IJA committed. Show the valor of the Sikh regiment and Gurkhas. CoD:WWII had so much potential and they squandered it.


TheSemaj

>The story missions of CoD WW2 were some of the best in the franchise, They should've done a new front each game. That'd give them Eastern, Mediterranean/North Africa, Island hopping and mainland Asia at a minimum to work with.


AnnthonySoprano

WW2 was GOAT. The War mode is one of the best modes in call of duty history.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Even look at Battlefield V. It was a fresh, original take on the WW2 campaign! Norway, Turkey, even playing AS NAZIS.


[deleted]

Wich of those is the enemy team and my team ? /s


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

They actually handled it really well. The Nazi campaign makes you just fight Allied soldiers, and as you progress the characters question if what they’re fighting for is ethical and see how fucked fascism can be


[deleted]

Is that campaing called "The last Tiger" or is this only one mission ? I heard a lot about this one but never watched a playthrough


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Yeah it’s pretty fun. Lots of tank action


Chillchinchila1

I still remember all the people asking for a Nazi campaign immediately turned on the last tiger when it came out. The hate was inescapable.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Because they were neo Nazis wanting a pro-Nazi campaign? And what they got was an honest look at the horrors of war and how evil the Nazi empire was?


Chillchinchila1

I don’t think they were all neonazis. There’s this disturbing trend where people think they’re smart because they say “um actually if you think the Nazis were evil that just means you can’t see nuance”.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Eh, sympathizing with Nazis is really dangerous thinking. I'd rather look up to people like [Germany Olympian Luz Long](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luz_Long#:~:text=Carl%20Ludwig%20%22Luz%22%20Long%20(,medal%20for%20the%20long%20jump.) who refused to give in to Nazi hatred rather than go-with-the-flow. It ended up getting him drafted and put on the front lines in the war, where he was killed quickly, but I'd rather go out resisting than joining fascists. Dr. Jens Foell tweeted "As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis." It's along the same lines of ACAB. Even though not all of them are directly contributing to the "evil" itself, they're turning a blind eye because its easier than resisting. Although I think I'm more or less preaching to the choir here. Anonymous folk on the internet can be so fucking pedantic.


Chillchinchila1

Totally agree. I had to be careful with my words since generally gamo spaces are full of those people.


Chillchinchila1

Didn’t people hate on battlefield V for the same reason they hated on vanguard? Didn’t V make it even worse by having a woman fighting with a prosthetic arm?


Kozzinator

Have they done on on WWIII?


Madeye232

Modern Warfare 3 was a WWIII game.


Omeggos

[Yes.](https://youtu.be/coiTJbr9m04)


emptysoul365

They're just waiting to see how that one ends next year.


BowieT_

Battlefield 1 is one of the ONLY good WW1 shooters… I can’t think of many good WW2 shooters


Which-Palpitation

I mean yeah they definitely followed that rabbit a little too often


best_uranium_box

It wasn't warry enough


Lyradep

I also love reading only headlines, and don’t read direct quotes. That said, yes, they did partially blame the setting, but they admitted their execution was poor.


Amachar928

Remember when IW and Activision did WWII right?


[deleted]

Modern warfare was great dunno why they insist on going back in time


National-Kitchen-881

Why isn't there a big title Korean war game? I would play COD Korean war.


velocicopter

Only if all the medics look like Alan Alda.


emptysoul365

And if they all came out with whacky one liners followed by a maudlin comment on the horrors of war. "Through early morning fog I see..."


allen5az

ROFL this whole thread is wonky. Go home ATVI your drunk


Regnes

WW2 expedited the invention of computers, and the Nazis have been classic video game baddies for decades. WW2 was responsible for many video game sales.


Dreaming_Kitsune

Maybe because valorant sucks? Like WW2 was one of the better cod games made, the multiplayer was a return to form the ol boots on the ground that everyone loved and the zombies was just *chef's kiss*


fireflyry

Well, when your “game” is really just a level up weapons for Warzone app it’s likely not gonna sell well.


IAmTheClayman

Source? Headline feels off


willdabeast674

Maybe, just maybe it's because Call of Duty: Vanguard was a very mediocre game in every way imaginable compared to all the CoD games before it...


brine909

There are so many untapped wars they could do instead of ww2 for the 15th time. Vietnam, Korea, Rowanda, Congo, Lebanon, even the war on terror could be touched on more.


Halapalo

Activision wouldn't know what to blame even if they actually blamed something.


LilShaver

I can't tell if this is the Babylon Bee or if it's real. I mean Activision is a garbage company (as most game publishers are these days), but were they actually dumb enough to say that?


DarthLordFerr

...Really...


Mushroom_Competitive

I’m sorry but your first 2 CoD games took place in WW2 and they sold well🙃🙃🙃


JetDRT

Yeah Activision is stupid now a days let's hope Microsoft can fix this piece of shit


Frogs_Are_Great

Breaking news, Call Of Duty Vangaurd developers tell reporters, *”Hitler did it!”*


___Jesus__Christ___

*Damn you Germans! You didn't make the war interesting enough!*


AnimuCrossing

I don't think they had PlayStations back then but could be wrong.


eldenxlord

You have to the future you have gone to the past, where do we go from here ?


sharfpang

I'm gonna get angry, just not sure at whom, Activision or the gaming press. Knowing the two, there's about 50% chance the headline is true.


Venriik

Underrated comment.


Lemonsqueezzyy

Activision blames disappointing Call of Duty sales on female employees that couldn't finish the game while being sexually assaulted in the meantime


holywars94

No, it was Just that Cold war and Vanguard were garbage, bc Modern Warfare 2019 was brilliant in every aspect it put the rule too high


Sabeha14

Meh


TF2HackerResistance

Eh, modern warfare 2019 is all right But the OG MW series is the best Not mw3 multiplayer tho


BitingArtist

Billion dollar company shirks responsibility for latest failure. <- better headline


HalfPrime

\*battlefield 2042 has left the chat\*


vnoowin

Yeah WWII didn’t happen exactly as in the game, bad WW


S31Ender

I thought WWII was the game everyone wanted? “The whole internet” was screaming as loud as they could they they wanted a boots on the ground game after years of increasingly more advanced warfare games. So COD made WWII and Battlefield made One. Now we’re saying it was crap?


Professional_Elk_893

nobody wanted anime, kingkong and godzilla in their ww2 game.


[deleted]

Yep exactly.


Razbyte

This is the part of the consequence of the current trend in gaming. Activision, needed to find a way to make those historical-based games enjoyable and profitable, after the tremendous success of Modern Warfare and Black Ops. The same happened with EA when DICE started to develop Battlefield V (remember that reveal trailer?). It’s much easier to promote and sell cosmetics on modern, futuristic, sci-fi themed shooters, than on accurate historical themes. By making Vanguard an alternative take on WWII, and BFV another take on WWII, they just made the excuse to put skins without guilty… the later backfired. In order words, AAA companies will unlikely invest on a accurately historical theme games, unless the aim is not towards mtx. Edit: don’t forget also that they have to pay a license for each real weapon in-game… this not happens on non-historical, futuristic shooters.


Tight_Mammoth3302

They just need to change up there game it's bin the same since the first one point shoot that's it just a copy and paste game kinda reminds me of another game company cough cough "EA Madden"


CrassDemon

Honestly I liked them the way they are, but you gotta offer me more than 3.5 hours of single player to justify the 60 dollars spent. I thought the story and gameplay where great, there just wasn't enough of it. I'm personally not a huge fan of online and that's all they want to focus on.


[deleted]

At this point everyone knows CoD is about online and war zone. Single player campaign at this point is more of a side note. If you want more story focused games you’re better off just leaving CoD alone.


Gunofanevilson

FPS is the new RTS. Nothing new, same shit over and over.


5tormwolf92

Why don't you make a more grounded game. MW2 is cancer.


Training-Panic-6948

They need to make a game called Cod: Biblical warfare or like medieval warfare or something. That would sell


HadACivilDebateOnlin

I too, want a red dot and a suppressor on my claymore


CollectPesos

I blame my empty bank account on WWI so I get it.


MizchiefKilz

Everyone is fucking sick of WWII. We want real modern guns and equipment in a game that runs smooth, has fun game play, and has a good balance between realism and arcade. All they had to do is keep making new maps and single-player DLC for whatever they were calling the last modern one.


quaestor44

No MTX in WW2 I guess


HalberdReborn

To be fair they shot themselves in the foot releasing another WW2 game It’s obviously an over saturated piece of history, yes people love it but like there are so many other things that can be done. I’m bored of WWII


gnarculees

Vanguard top in my top 3 😬


namey-name-name

I mean the deaths and genocide were bad and all but the real consequence of the Second World War was the decline in COD sales.


Notadrunkdog

It’s World War III get it right


SUSPECT_XX

Or there god awful everything, but no that couldn't be it


ElectricalPin3429

WW2 wasnt as fun as promissed, as a jew they told us the train was a roller coster


Professional_Ad8069

I’m surprised they didn’t blame it on the black guy.


MostEvilTexasToast

Fuckin' Nazi, they ruin everything.


MorgrainX

Spoiler alert WW III games will be lit, for the remaining three humans living on the moon


lloydsmith28

The game or the actual war? Lot of issues with either though tbh


magick_68

They are right. WW2 wasn't funny enough. That's what you get if you fight against an enemy without any sense of humor. Next time you start a world war consider if it makes a good story for a video game


CleverTrickster

I'm tired of Journalists click bait title...


Ironbanner987615

Huh?


AidilAfham42

Those damn nazis!


Doctor_Box

The article title is misleading but to be fair, I was already reluctant to play this one because of WW2 game fatigue. Then it turned out the game was bad on top of the tired setting.


pro_gaemr5000

yeah man ww2 was so lame what did they expect


Audio-Samurai

ngl, WW2 was pretty inconvenient for a lot of people...


ItsNiels99

The theme being WW 2 did contribute to me not buying this game.


fainje

Confirmed: Activision is pro Putin to start WW3 for more content.


BravoeBello

Activision blame several countries from earth for not having started a new massive war to do a new game on it.


ScoobertDoubert

WW2 was like 80 years ago, I doubt it played into the lack of sales of the equivalent of a yearly shitpost in game format.


Tricky_Insect_6770

I think ww2 was really good tbh


DonM89

COD:Waterloo (Still has CAPT. Price and Soap obviously


strflw_23

This is an obvious low-effort clickbait title. Falling for things like that, you need to be careful you don't start to believe the earth is flat.


Donkster

I mean, I personally am really tired of the whole WW2 setting. Battlefield One was a somewhat fresh take but still got old for me at some point or felt pretty samey because the weapons of that era just weren't that different after all. That's why I was so hopeful about Battlefield 2042 because it's finally a modern/somewhat future era with new weapon ideas and gadgets. But we all know how that went... That being said, as with most recent Call Of Dutys, it's not the setting on it's own that is the reason people feel disappointed. They just felt somewhat half assed


Paltenburg

"I don't want to blame it all on WW2, but it certainly didn't help."


Fun_Limit921

Maybe if they made WWII more inclusive.


Nomad_86

😆


True_Ad_9258

I’ll state some facts. The advanced movement cods were more enjoyable than anything in the past few years


Aggravating-Zebra566

Maybe if the game was actually a gritty ww2 game and not this California corporate wishywashy selling skins garbage it would have done better. This game was not a ww2 it was a corporate fantasy of ww2 ensuring nobody was offended and everyone had a great time tm


Venriik

Have you never heard of the Great Costume Battle of 1942?


BGS_is_fucking_shit

That Screenshot alone tells me that this Game is fucking terrible.


Floodingturds

I knew they were stupid, but are they really this stupid?


bowlingdoughnuts

I've noticed my life hasn't been going good since 9/11 ...


Grakniir

Nah come on CoD WWII was underrated as heck