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I found some of these pre-peeled forbidden ocean grapes off a Nova Scotian beach a couple of years ago, too.
Apparently they're invasive and reproduce like fricken yeehaws.
What can eat it? How quickly do they divide? Can it be a fast grown source of energy for us and/or we raise the animals to eat? Is it financially viable as a new feed stock?
For real, I need answers. All my life I thought cells were only so big in the microscopic world. I can’t understand that this is 1 single biological cell and not cut it open and see a cross section of what I learned in school in a non-microscopic environment
If I remember correctly, it's only technically one cell. It's actually a big soup of nuclei and organelles floating around, sort of like you liquified a bunch of cells and then stuffed them back into one comically oversized membrane. So I'd imagine it reproduces when it finally figures out how to stuff some of its goo into a second cell membrane.
Yup^^^
There's a genus called caulerpa that is full of these technically "single cell" but still macroscopic algae, excelt there's actually differentiation of the "tissue" into "leaves", "stalks", and "roots".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caulerpa
Nature is fucking cool.
>Caulerpa are unusual because they consist of only one cell with many nuclei, making them among the biggest single cells in the world.
>A species in the Mediterranean can have a stolon more than 3 metres long.
Wouldn't this be larger than what's in OP's post?
From Wikipedia, since nody has done it yet... Behold
Ventricaria ventricosa. Valonia ventricosa, also known as bubble algae or sailor's eyeballs, is a species of algae found in oceans throughout the world in tropical and subtropical regions, within the phylum Chlorophyta. It is one of the largest known unicellular organisms, if not the largest
More informative reddit post about this
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3jlhp4/til_there_is_a_type_of_algae_that_is_one_of_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Organelles and cells tend to be tiny because it maximizes the surface area to volume ratio, and a lot of the mitochondria's functions involve transmembrane (surface area) proteins and modulating concentrations of ions (ion gradients) in the space between those membranes (volume).
A large mitochondrion would have less surface area relative to its size, but a larger volume, meaning it would have less space to put the "machines" that actually do the work, and would require more of the "ingredients" that power the machines.
Instead of making mitochondria larger, cells that have higher energy requirements (eg. muscle cells) just have more mitochondria.
The mitochondria is also unique in that it likely started as a separate organism with its own genome, so the fact that mitochondria operate in concert between its own genome and the nucleic genome, and the fact that it plays such a critical role in cell function/survivability, it's under a lot of evolutionary constraints, and is fairly resistant to, and intolerant of change.
If I cut it open I would fully expect to see a cross-section of a cell as depicted in school text books. With proportional organelles. It's fascinating to me that that isn't the reality.
My theory as to why we haven’t met aliens yet is they’re hiding from us because every time we encounter another species, we immediately try to kill it, eat it, or fuck it.
I mean, if they are the ones that have the technology to be able to find us, know everything about us and impede us from finding them, i think they would have the technology to beat us easily
It actually has a fuckton of nucleuses. A cell this size could never survive if it had just a single nucleus. It’s a polynuclear organism. Super cool though
Not *that* forbidden, [apparently](http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315138).
EDIT: hugged. [backup link](https://web.archive.org/web/20201111194243/http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315138) from /u/btardinrehab. apologies to Reef Central.
>Bit of an oddball question, but has anyone eaten Valonia macrophysa before? I had lunch with an experimental chef this weekend. He's interested in trying it out, and I'm interested in not killing him.
What a considerate person <3
Hello? Is someone there? My name is Hyetta, and I'm journeying in search of the distant light. If I might be so bold as to ask... would you donate any Shabriri grapes in your possession to me? My eyesight has been weak since birth, you see. I can't tell which way I'm supposed to go next. But when I eat one of those grapes, I can feel a distant light in the back of my eyes. It will lead me, to my true duty, as a Finger Maiden
In the Metro 2033 video game, very large single cell organisms living in a nuclear silo would charge at you and explode. Famously an annoying section of that game because your companion would basically ignore them and get killed, causing you to get forced back to a checkpoint.
I popped one in the Caribbean once (for some reason expecting it not to pop despite squeezing it) and it was basically full of fluid. Smelled like algae, which makes sense.
might be a dumb question but why arent these handed out at schools for student to learn? or does the whole thing just fall apart when you cut it open? or is it too expensive? or any other reason
Edit: yes i was stupid thinking that big cell = big organelles, wouldve been awesome like this but yea, obviously its not
The organelles inside would still be tiny, it would be like popping a green water balloon.
Also knowing kids about half of them would end up thrown at each other and leave a big mess.
There wouldn't be too much you could actually see- the interior is dominated by a huge central vacuole and most of the organelles are in a thin layer close to the cell wall. And since it's a green alga, it would be hard to identify any of the organelles other than the billions of chloroplasts. As a cell biology teaching tool, a drop of pond water under a microscope is going to be much more instructive.
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I found some of these pre-peeled forbidden ocean grapes off a Nova Scotian beach a couple of years ago, too. Apparently they're invasive and reproduce like fricken yeehaws.
Considering they just need to divide to reproduce, that would make sense. Would be cool to see it undergo mitosis tho.
What can eat it? How quickly do they divide? Can it be a fast grown source of energy for us and/or we raise the animals to eat? Is it financially viable as a new feed stock?
Emerald crabs eat them. Two took care of an outbreak I had in a small reef tank in a couple months after adding a coral without due diligence
but are they like a grape? like uhhh do they ooze?
Sharibiri Grape
Im fine with those but not the rune bears.
Fuck the rune bears
A very “soylent green is people” moment hahah love it.
Lemme get my clamps for this!
since they reproduce like mad you could pop them,dry them, and burn them for electricity
Boil them, mash them, stick em in a stew!
Potatoes 🥔!
You obviously poked them with a stick, can you tell us please what happened?
Obviously Black Goo
She sells sea cells down by the seashore.
r/angryupvote
If they can survive warmer, more acidic oceans, they may come in handy in the near future. Also, I wonder if whales find them a treat.
Squishy?
Will it pop?
Das what I thinks
Will it blend?
Will it fry?
I need a video of this mf dividing.
They don’t divide, it’s through cell segregation (basically little cells pop out of it)
Sooooo got a video?
Nothing really to see but small bubbles inside. I have this shit in certain parts of my aquarium, but not to this size.
Sooooo *YOU* got a video? Edit: common decency thanks for the awards.
Someone get this guy his fix
No lol can’t find any
Damn
We were so close that time.
For real, I need answers. All my life I thought cells were only so big in the microscopic world. I can’t understand that this is 1 single biological cell and not cut it open and see a cross section of what I learned in school in a non-microscopic environment
If I remember correctly, it's only technically one cell. It's actually a big soup of nuclei and organelles floating around, sort of like you liquified a bunch of cells and then stuffed them back into one comically oversized membrane. So I'd imagine it reproduces when it finally figures out how to stuff some of its goo into a second cell membrane.
Yup^^^ There's a genus called caulerpa that is full of these technically "single cell" but still macroscopic algae, excelt there's actually differentiation of the "tissue" into "leaves", "stalks", and "roots". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caulerpa Nature is fucking cool.
>Caulerpa are unusual because they consist of only one cell with many nuclei, making them among the biggest single cells in the world. >A species in the Mediterranean can have a stolon more than 3 metres long. Wouldn't this be larger than what's in OP's post?
I looked for one but couldn't find any
From Wikipedia, since nody has done it yet... Behold Ventricaria ventricosa. Valonia ventricosa, also known as bubble algae or sailor's eyeballs, is a species of algae found in oceans throughout the world in tropical and subtropical regions, within the phylum Chlorophyta. It is one of the largest known unicellular organisms, if not the largest
I want to see it divide
pervert.
Whatever! It would be amazing to see celular division at the macroscopic level.
You know people can read what you're typing here right?
To be fair, I’m also now excited to see it divide thanks to u/MAJ0RMAJOR . Don’t know what’s actually gonna happen, but it sounds fun 🤷🏽♀️
I three want to see it divided
You've never seen clevage that sized.
Yall can read?
Unfortunately it doesn't divide
The worst fucking part about Reddit is that I had to scroll past a bunch of dumbass math jokes to get to this comment.
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It should probably start with simple addition and subtraction.
What makes you think it isn’t a master of ALGAEbra
Algae-bruh
I literally just shook that was so funny to me. I’m high. Ok bye
Upvoted for Dad Joke Vibe.
When it divides, it multiplies
It's just full of fluid. Source: took a knife to one once because I didn't know what it was
I think they mean through mitosis, not a knife.
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reality is often disappointing
Sorry about your toe sis
That’s not a knife, this is a knife 🥄
That's a spoon.
I see you've played knifey/spoony before
I wanted to see both but was hoping maybe it had mitochondria that were bigger or something, maybe even macroscopic.
Organelles and cells tend to be tiny because it maximizes the surface area to volume ratio, and a lot of the mitochondria's functions involve transmembrane (surface area) proteins and modulating concentrations of ions (ion gradients) in the space between those membranes (volume). A large mitochondrion would have less surface area relative to its size, but a larger volume, meaning it would have less space to put the "machines" that actually do the work, and would require more of the "ingredients" that power the machines. Instead of making mitochondria larger, cells that have higher energy requirements (eg. muscle cells) just have more mitochondria. The mitochondria is also unique in that it likely started as a separate organism with its own genome, so the fact that mitochondria operate in concert between its own genome and the nucleic genome, and the fact that it plays such a critical role in cell function/survivability, it's under a lot of evolutionary constraints, and is fairly resistant to, and intolerant of change.
I love this response
I wondered that too!
So anyways, I started slashing
If I cut it open I would fully expect to see a cross-section of a cell as depicted in school text books. With proportional organelles. It's fascinating to me that that isn't the reality.
That would be amazing. Every biology teacher would be farming them in class (assuming that's possible).
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Think about it like this. Bigger highways don't have bigger cars driving on them, they just have more cars driving on them.
The only things that look like school book illustrations are school book illustrations.
Hey, sometimes album covers imitate them!
Nope, just a mess.
> took a knife to one once because I didn't know what it was Humanity in a nutshell.
That's how learned most of what we know. Also that's how many of our ancestors died
My theory as to why we haven’t met aliens yet is they’re hiding from us because every time we encounter another species, we immediately try to kill it, eat it, or fuck it.
I mean, if they are the ones that have the technology to be able to find us, know everything about us and impede us from finding them, i think they would have the technology to beat us easily
Sharks bite to see what something is, nature didn’t need to change just for us
TIL my cat is a house shark.
What's in its insides? 😳
It actually has a fuckton of nucleuses. A cell this size could never survive if it had just a single nucleus. It’s a polynuclear organism. Super cool though
Uh, I think it's pronounced *nucular*.
Homer, I'm what you'd call a 'well-wisher' in that I don't wish you any specific harm.
Fool me once......it's uh......uh.....shame on you?
[Ventricia Ventricosa Cell Experiments](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/a-Ventricaria-ventricosa-cells-as-used-in-experiments-on-turgor-pressure-regulation_fig1_6878868) I got you.
A mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of the cell.
Not to be confused with midichlorians. The power house of the jedi.
Not to be confused with general Midi, the powerhouse of 80's rock
Organelles
But like…are they large?
My guess is that there are simply tons of them, not that they have much larger size
I am incredibly disappointed it does not have abnormally large mitochondria
If it did, every middle school science class room would be dissecting these for sure
Yes. I feel like I shouldn’t care… but I do
i'm honestly trying not to let it upset me
Tears of sorrow where those of joy should be.
You mean the powerhouse of the cell!?
No one cell should have all that power.
Lol I have been having emerald crabs eat the crap out of these in my reef tank for years
What the inside like? A fluid? A gel? A jelly?
Cytoplasm
I heard that if you try to pull a fast one, it gels.
“Sailor’s Eyeballs” lol wtf
That is a great name.
I'm picturing bulgy, green-eyed sailors now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valonia_ventricosa
What’s it using as a powerhouse?
Mitochondria?
Macrochondria
Mightychondria
Megachondria
Flubber
Midichlorians
that's the powerhouse of the cell isn't it?
A 1981 cummins diesel engine
*Slaps hood of cell*
Three Mitochondria in a trench coat Edit: I’ve been informed the plural of mitochondria is in fact mitochondria
“Hey baby, my Golgi body is huge.”
"I've got ribosomes for your pleasure."
“My endoplasmic reticulum is rough”
“You can cross my membrane any day”
"My vacuoles are all empty... do you have anything to fill them with?"
“You make my nucleolus bulge.”
“You make my chromatin coil”
“I think I got cytoplasm all over.”
Biology flashbacks.
Quite the aparatus you got.
Can… Can I keep it? As like…? A houseplant?
Inside a fish tank. Yes.
!!!
In a saltwater tank yes (not sure about freshwater). They’re considered a nuisance though.
Yes, they never shut up and insist on watching the show THEY want to watch.
Idk why this comment was so funny to me
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Forbidden grape.
Not *that* forbidden, [apparently](http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315138). EDIT: hugged. [backup link](https://web.archive.org/web/20201111194243/http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315138) from /u/btardinrehab. apologies to Reef Central.
You say that, but he didn't come back after he said he was going to try it.
Legend has it- He just fucking went and died
Choked on Poseidon's balls.
>Bit of an oddball question, but has anyone eaten Valonia macrophysa before? I had lunch with an experimental chef this weekend. He's interested in trying it out, and I'm interested in not killing him. What a considerate person <3
People have to die for science. Sacrifice the chef!
The old hug of death
Oh shit, I broke Reef Central. They didn't deserve it; they were only trying to chat about macroalgae!
They had it coming!
50 minutes and that poor site is dead. RIP
[Backup link](https://web.archive.org/web/20201111194243/http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315138) post hug-of-death! :)
The description was pretty tame, yet I still felt ill while reading it edit: Ill not I'll
Hello? Is someone there? My name is Hyetta, and I'm journeying in search of the distant light. If I might be so bold as to ask... would you donate any Shabriri grapes in your possession to me? My eyesight has been weak since birth, you see. I can't tell which way I'm supposed to go next. But when I eat one of those grapes, I can feel a distant light in the back of my eyes. It will lead me, to my true duty, as a Finger Maiden
May chaos take the world. MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD.
Largest single-celled organism on earth… so far.
>Metro 2033 flashback
Can you explain this?
In the Metro 2033 video game, very large single cell organisms living in a nuclear silo would charge at you and explode. Famously an annoying section of that game because your companion would basically ignore them and get killed, causing you to get forced back to a checkpoint.
That section was the bane of my fucking existance.
Does it tastes like a crunchy grape filled with swamp water ? Cause it sure looks like it tastes like a crunchy grape filled with swamp water.
They grow in salt water so crunchy, briny grape. Edit: 666 upvotes. No more pls.
So an olive? It's even the right color!
I love olives and I love grapes - what could possibly go wrong with this salty abomination.
I popped one in the Caribbean once (for some reason expecting it not to pop despite squeezing it) and it was basically full of fluid. Smelled like algae, which makes sense.
You lysed the cell! You bastard!
The son is a deadly lyser
It looks squishy haha
Undersea boba.
Does it do anything or just lay there?
It's algae, so I imagine it just floats around and photosynthesizes.
Life goals
I already just lay around all day, how do I photosynthesize?
Simple, just do what the Valonia Ventricosa would do
Perhaps plant cells and I are not as different as I thought
What does it smell like?
Same way it tastes
Give you $20 to bite it.
I’d support a Go Fund Me for this.
I love the human obsession in this thread of wanting to eat it 😂😂😂😂
if it didnt want us to eat it, it shouldnt look so much like yummy grape 🧐
Absolute unit never skips mitochondria day!
Goddam it who the hell took shrek's balls
Whoa. I never heard of it. How on earth does it have sufficient surface area to respire?
Can you eat it?
At least 1 time
Does it do any tricks?
How easy is it to pop?
Literally what ive been asking everytime this made it to the front page.
https://youtube.com/shorts/TO4koYSIrV4?feature=share
I just witnessed a murder.
Another commenter said they accidentally popped one with their hands by squeezing it.
Grape
They did surgery on a Valonia Ventricosa
might be a dumb question but why arent these handed out at schools for student to learn? or does the whole thing just fall apart when you cut it open? or is it too expensive? or any other reason Edit: yes i was stupid thinking that big cell = big organelles, wouldve been awesome like this but yea, obviously its not
Considering these are literally an aquarium pest, they're quite resilient. It would probably be a cool science project to grow one this size
Just to kids throw it into a body of water and it ruin everything.
The organelles inside would still be tiny, it would be like popping a green water balloon. Also knowing kids about half of them would end up thrown at each other and leave a big mess.
There wouldn't be too much you could actually see- the interior is dominated by a huge central vacuole and most of the organelles are in a thin layer close to the cell wall. And since it's a green alga, it would be hard to identify any of the organelles other than the billions of chloroplasts. As a cell biology teaching tool, a drop of pond water under a microscope is going to be much more instructive.
The individual organelles are not any bigger. They're still microscopic. Think of an egg: a single cell with no visible organelles
Came this far to find out if you could see any bits and bobs inside it. I'm dissatisfied to say the least
Wait until you see its FINAL FORM
It turns into quantarius Sharius ultrarius megamindarius youcantevencompareius the third