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Pls_no_steal

It's not just a TikTok ban, I urge anyone who thinks it is to look further into it. It's massive government overreach


Substantial_Item_828

Who is sponsoring the bill


Lil_Lamppost

a bunch of centrist dems and random gop senators


Pls_no_steal

Josh Hawley introduced it but it has bipartisan support


Substantial_Item_828

Does Biden support it


Lil_Lamppost

He supports a ban of TikTok if Chinese investors don’t sell their ownership which realistically won’t happen


InsaneMemeposting

Essentially doing the same thing Trump tried in 2020. Except of course trump just went immediately for the ban


TheAngryObserver

Biden does not know what he supports. This isn't just because he knows nothing about TikTok or social media in general, but because he doesn't have opinions until he realizes how they make him look.


TheAngryObserver

This is a fucking terrible idea pushed by ignorant octogenarians who are all too eager to get another Patriot Act in if it means pwning China. People need to actually read the RESTRICT act, it would be an enormous blow to online freedom. This gives the executive branch a ridiculous amount of vaguely defined power over social media apps. Y'all really want people to get twenty years for accessing TikTok on a VPN?


Synthetic_T

I do love politicians ranting about “unelected bureaucrats” and “big government overreach” whist keep granting them new sweeping & vaguely defined powers


TheAngryObserver

The right's posturing as "populist" and "anti-corporate" is an even sadder larp than their civil libertarian one. All they are doing is applying lib-owning principles to the budget.


InsaneMemeposting

I personally don't oppose banning just TikTok but the law they want to pass would take it way too far and ban anything Chinese in general be it games chat apps or anything like that


Throw-Away12804

I despise TikTok with a passion and would love to see it go away, but I'm going to stick with my principles and oppose such a ban.


InsaneMemeposting

Based as fuck. I can respect those who stick to their principles


Reddiajjk2o2i1o

If it just banned tik tok I would have less of a problem. However it's full of stuff we don't need. However it's a free country and people should be allowed to view what they wish. Tik Tok is awful but people should still be allowed to use it. I take a similar stance to Rand Paul on this. Rands sometimes crazy but he's right on these type of vague bills that give the gov more power.


Synthetic_T

Oppose, strongly, and I don't even use TikTok If Congress really cares about personal privacy they should follow the EU’s lead


InsaneMemeposting

I just saw something where the EU wanted to read through people's private chats so not the best example


Synthetic_T

If we are sacrificing our privacy regardless I’d rather entrust them with those responsible to elected representatives of the electorates with clearly defined boundaries via privacy regulations (rather than unaccountable companies, foreign governments, or rogue agencies).


Lil_Lamppost

Asking redditors this question is a bad idea. I want to make a point about how is essentially political suicide for whoever supports this but “the TikTok and Instagram are cringe and bad” crowd have scared me out of it


GapHappy7709

I oppose because it f the other stuff in that bill, if it’s passed we will never have privacy ever again


InsaneMemeposting

Agreed. Knowing the anti freedom fuckers in Congress on both parties though they will pass it and call it a victory for bipartisanship or something


GapHappy7709

And then they will spy on all of us through our social media and watch out every move


Always_Meeping

I don’t think TikTok should be banned, but it’s data harvesting needs to be regulated. They are really good at finding what you like for a reason. Despite what everyone says there is no evidence China is spying on us through TikTok. Proof of that: (do note they say their is cause for concern but that is not enough reason to ban them) https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/evidence-tiktok-national-security-threat-reason-concern-experts/story?id=98149650


InsaneMemeposting

Honestly you can make the argument that we need to regulate data harvesting for big tech in general


Always_Meeping

True that should probably happen.


Wide_right_yes

it's a free country


TheAngryObserver

Common Wide\_right\_yes double u


InsaneMemeposting

Rare AOC fan W


SignificantTrip6108

I am no fan of Tik Tok, but it shouldn’t be banned I think.


SteeIyDan

Support for it is fueled by Americans’ raging hate boner for China without a full understanding of the bill. VPN usage to access “unauthorized” content is apparently punishable with jail time or something like a 250k fine. No more watching foreign Netflix shows, or TikTok for that matter.


InsaneMemeposting

YouTubers are about to go nuts when they can't advertise VPN number #585737


Substantial_Item_828

Yeah it would be funny


InsaneMemeposting

It would but the law they are trying to pass has all this extra bullshit we don't need. It should just be banning tiktok and that's it


Thomas_Sanuco

Yes. TikTok sucks


Pls_no_steal

Read more into it, they're using it as an excuse to pass some particularly heinous stuff along with the ban


Thomas_Sanuco

That heinous stuff should be cut. I am not against the ban as a standalone legislation. That is what I thought this poll was on, the approval of a ban of tiktok Sui generis(on its own), not the bill itself.


Pls_no_steal

Even the ban of the app itself is pretty authoritarian


Thomas_Sanuco

I Hate Chinese spyware


Pls_no_steal

Odds are you’re already using American spyware at this point, im much more concerned about my own government restricting me than I am about China


SteeIyDan

American companies stealing my data good, Chinese companies stealing my data bad.


Negative_Oil_1601

Absolutely although it doesn’t go nearly far enough on Chinese infiltration we need to nationalize all Chinese property in the US and suspend new immigration


2019h740

Watch the Jesse Watters/Lindsey Graham interview


InsaneMemeposting

I certainly will