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m0na-l1sa

Panic and anxiety about the mounting bills that need to be paid


Public-Dig-6690

Piles of unpaid bills,


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toobahabs

Sounds like an American problem LOL


BassGoBoom_20

The knowledge of how to cut a cucumber, apparently.


vik_thewomaninblack

Please elaborate, I am very confused here :D


Upbeat_Surprise

There is a video of Kendall Jenner saying she can make her own snack without their personal chef and then she begins to cut a cucumber in the most awkward way possible


vik_thewomaninblack

Ohhhh, I see, somehow I am really happy I have no knowledge about this :D


Calijhon

I do wonder if that was fake. Everything about that family is fake.


lasvegasbunnylover

I love a good dismemberment video...


calisto_fox

Its highly likely she does know how to cut it but pretended not to for the cameras


JordyVerrill

Wasn't that on a TV show though? TV shows aren't real life. Next thing you'll tell me is Jessica Simpson really doesn't know what chicken of the Sea meant lol.


sethito

...so wait, is it fish or is it chicken? Did she ever find out?


BassGoBoom_20

I was just making fun of the Kartrashians.


H0tlips76

It was on the kartrashians the other day


Sinfullymad

Upvote for the giggle Kartrashians invoked


H0tlips76

Why thanks, I find it very descriptive


Sinfullymad

It really is. That whole family just ugh...


U_cabrao

hate myself to know the reference


TheBlackTemplar125

Professional chefs:


No_Guard_4829

Makes me want to see her doing other chores ...


DontGrowAttached

Generally? DIY-knowledge. If you can't afford to get someone to fix something, you're going to have to do it yourself or make do without.


projecthouse

In the US, a lot of high income people ($100K, $1M+) are very good at DIY, and do DIY on a regular basis. If you expand this to include the industrial arts, there's a lot of rich metal / woodworkers. These aren't cheap hobbies after all. In some places, there is cultural bias against DIY and the manual hobbies. But that doesn't seem to be the case in the US.


Salt-Pea-8311

Not being afraid of being poor. I had to listen to a surgeon I work with complain that he'll have to sell one of his three homes because of the economy. I know what it's like to be Ramen noodle poor, so I'm not overly worried about doing again.


Lady_Ymir

Damn, I don't remember the details but there was some anicnet roman gourmand, who lived so lavishly that when he realized he wasted so much money that he now wasn't *unfathomably* rich anymore, he just straight up poisoned himself so he wouldn't have to live like a *common* rich person.


Extension_Drummer_85

It sounds like you’re in the US where it’s different but in a lot of countries a surgeon can’t really get rich just being a surgeon. In countries with a high cost of living you need that fear of not being poor to be able to quit your job and start your own business/make high risk high gain investments get rich or a management level job in investment banking. Either or.


Salt-Pea-8311

I'm in the US. Surgeons at my hospital probably make around 1 -2 million a year. The Surgeon I'm speaking of would rather stop paying his son's tuition for medical school then give up one of his homes. He always looking for sympathy from the OR staff. Pretty much all the Surgeons I work with have the same attitude as him with the exception of a few.


Extension_Drummer_85

Yeah, here the average surgeons salary is around $140k USD but average house price is very slightly higher nationally (obviously regional variations would be significant).


Tsjernobull

So a house cost one year of wages for a surgeon? That still sounds like he could get rich to me tbh


Extension_Drummer_85

No, sorry, I meant slightly higher than US prices (around 550k). But that’s an average, if you’re a surgeon you’d need to live in a city or a very large town for work. In Sydney/Melbourne you’d bee looking at 3 times the national average for a really ordinary house (that’s the 1.5 million mark), in other cities it would be like maybe 20% more for a really ordinary house. Realistically you would struggle to buy a family home and support a family alone on that salary these days but people get around that by living at home until they’re ready to buy, delaying having children until they’re much older (which works well with their career anyway) and marrying within their profession (obviously a lot of surgeons earn more and a lot earn less). So you could be looking at 10 times your gross salary. If you’re paying rent, have a car etc it could take you a very long time to buy a house unless you were willing to live in something really awful.


Calijhon

Middle class people are scared of becoming poor. The wealthy are oblivious.


Zsalugater

Exactly. If you are born really poor or really wealthy, you're kind of done. However hard you try, you can't escape your fate of staying poor/rich for ever and ever. But the middle class, that's different. You have to work your ass off to stay middle class and pass that social status on to your offspring


The_Paradoxigm

Untreated medical conditions


lalathemonk

Food stamps


Foxtratte

Grocery math. I’m not gonna lie after a turn of fortune I started to look at price tags less and less and I feel kinda guilty about it. When I was a student I used to count every nickel, and they added up.


uninvitedthirteenth

Agree with this. I’m not quite at Lucille Bluth level (“it’s a banana Michael, what could it cost, $10?”), but I don’t have a good sense of how much stuff costs


ShinyaTB

Worries. Worries get considerable less with better income. Until you are so rich that you have to start worrying about lots of things again.


randallAtl

The sad thing about nice people who get rich is that they are likely to try and help and give back to friends and family. And very often they get taken advantage of, or people become ungrateful "You gave Billy 10k, but Jane only got 5k, you guys suck" In my opinion the best thing you can do if you get rich is drive an average car and have average furniture, clothes and not tell anyone that knows you. Giving money to good charities is the best way to give back. You can be more sure that they will use it wisely.


ShinyaTB

You could just give money to those who don't compare what they get to what others get. I know both types of people, those who show their greed, and those who are just grateful for what they get and don't complain. Or even those, who don't complain and try to pass on what they received for free, whenever they feel someone else needs it more. I would agree though with your take on not showing your money too much. Makes it much harder to distinguish real friends from gold diggers, I would assume.


Tsjernobull

Everyone worries tho. Just about different things


ShinyaTB

But as I said: Considerably less. About ten years ago, I went through very different levels of income very quickly (basically, quick decline to minimum social security levels, and a year later to more income than any time before). And the things I had to worry about when I had no money were much harder to deal with. Even with health, which can (and eventually will) be an issue regardless of whether you are rich or poor, is much less of a problem when you are in a financially secure position.


Outlaw2024

absolutely incorrect. the worries triple.


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

Sense of how far a dollar will go.


JuryBorn

Plenty of people who are rich but came from nothing know exactly how far money will go.


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

This is a generalization, do you really think the majority of rich / wealthy just pulled themselves up by their boot straps recently? Because it's a whole different financial climate than even a few years ago. So yeah I would say the majority of rich people if they had to give an off the cuff answer for how little they could survive on would be sorely mistaken.


JuryBorn

I said plenty of rich people. I never said a majority. And yes lots of people who grew up poor and become wealthy will always be frugal because of how they grew up.


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

Plenty implies a pretty good amount. I would say the majority if you asked them how much it cost to live in theirncurrent city (where housing prices have skyrocketed most likely, and inflation has reared its head) unless they have become rich in the last year are not going to have the same sense of how far a dollar goes. They havnt recently been doing mental math to know if they can eat and afford rent on pay, their sense of it is outdated. Sure there might be a tiny bit of the percentage that said hey, I'm making millions now, I'm going to keep living like I make peanuts, but I would really doubt it.


JuryBorn

I work in an industry where I deal with some extremely wealthy people. In my experience some of the wealthiest are the most thrifty and frugal. The word plenty is a little ambiguous and can be interpreted in many ways but does not necessarily mean the majority. There are plenty of Ebenezer scrooge, saving a dollar is earning a dollar, type misers.


Just_Aioli_1233

I think the numbers were in the 70-80% range last I checked. And 20% of billionaires in the US grew up poor.


Longjumping_Item_832

I really doubt Elon could figure out how to live on $10/hr when his family has had millions since his birth. Yeah he can manage billions better than I can, but I gurantee I can stretch $100 out longer than he can.


Revolutionary-Cup954

i thinknthisnis quite the opposite. poor people have alot of unnecessary wast in their budget. rich people often view money as a tool and use it with precision. not always in either case but iften enough


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

I don't think so. They might be able to effectively wield a lot of money, but a lack of money is a different game. I grew up poor and am now a comfortable middle class. I don't really have to think about my grocery bill and pick and choose. That's even more so for someone rich / wealthy. Out of curiosity what waste do you think a poor person has in their budget that would drastically change things?


Revolutionary-Cup954

i grew up poor too. had hand outs from the church, my mom made my cloths ect. im pretty middle class now. alot of "poor" people, and what you think of as poor is subjective, spend alot of money on unnecessary things, sometimes designer cloths, cigarettes, alcohol and drugs, vacations ect. they call it "self care". certainly not all of them, it wasnt my family, which is one of the reasons im no longer poor. I also know a few "rich" people and some blow money on junk but alot dont. they eat at home instead of eating out, dont drive corvettes but small family cars ect. they can afford to goto Tahiti on vacation but instead goto Pennsylvania, they use their money on investnents amd buisness oppertunties and growing their wealth as opposed frivolous things. again thats not all, but from what i see poor people who stay poor dont knkw the value of money, neither do rich people whomwaste money and often become poor. but rich people who stay rich use money as a tool amd know exactly what its worth


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

So let's setup a scenario. With no outside research allowed we take poor person and a rich person from the same city we give them each one bi weekly paycheck of the federal poverty level which is around 495 dollars to. We take out whatever rent / utilities are required. Then we put them in a super market that has no visible prices. Who do you think is going to have the sense of the current financial climate and come back with a cart that would be close to what they had to spend and would last them to the next paycheck. Your definition of poor eating out and small family cars is already not really poor...


blaze980

What's up with people on reddit who have never interacted with rich people thinking that they know everything about rich people?


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

I know that being actually poor you have a fucking next level fear of where your next meal is coming from. You know damn near to the cent how much you have and what you can get. A rich person is not going hungry to stretch a dollar, so I don't really care how many rich people you know because it doesnt matter.


blaze980

That still doesn't explain why you think that you have such an in-depth understanding of rich people. If a rich person told you that they understood poor people then you would say they couldn't possibly so, why do you think it works in the other direction?


MkMyBnkAcctGrtAgn

Because the rich person isn't going around starving...hes not daily practicing self harm and knows the unhealthy ass ways to stretch a dollar.


blaze980

I find it so bizarre that you think rich people couldn't possibly understand money, commerce, economics, global issues.


Revolutionary-Cup954

i think in this scenereo, if youbgave the average rich person and the average poor person this ammount of money, the rich person would be more likely to survive and possibly even save. i said peoples perception of whats rich and poor is subjective. i spent 20 years working indirectly but closely with the homeless and people in shelters, i talked regularly with many. alot made extreemly poor decisions with whatever money they got. booze, drugs, cigarettes then would steal breakfast from the local 7-11. there were a handful that counted nickles like their life depended on it, but that was rather unusual. i also know more then a few people in the top 5% of income earners, and one or two who are the top 1%. many of them still look for bargains, shop at walmart, but generic items where they exist and even use coupons. I find theyre MORE likely to do this. the groups who blow money like drunken sailors arent isually the wealthy its the middle class and upper middle class who have a taste of money and often dont come from it to understand it. they like showing off and the endorphins and keeping up with the joneses. this has been my experience


Tsjernobull

I know 5 people and then generalize without having a clue what i am talking about


Extension_Drummer_85

It doesn’t take a genius to buy the own brand beans, bag of frozen peas and potatoes and just accept that that is dinner for the next week.


Longjumping_Item_832

Poop knives


lasvegasbunnylover

Wrong thread. You're looking for Amber heard....


charlotta98

😂😂😂😂😂


HairyNutsackNumber9

so thats why she gave johnny that giant knife


moknine1189

Sometimes shit cuts deep


Tobybrent

Limited options


industrialTech45

The respect for the value of money


Croyorosca

FAFSA aid


Adept_Solution6401

Real problems.


applesandoranges990

you mean -existential-


Seirxus

Debt


manager96

Super rich people have lot of debt cuse why use your own money to buy stuff. They get very low interest rates, some times the interest rates they get are lower than inflation.


Just_Aioli_1233

Yep, proper debt management is a good way to leverage yourself into a profitable position. It's called financial arbitrage.


lemonsbeefstew

yeah, well, happy cake day!


mcrissjr

Rich people have tons of debt. It's collateralized by their investments which make far more than the interest costs.


Kanny-chan

Real problems.


AravisawesomexD

Lack of money 😜


daytimeinsomnia

The ability to make food last, even if it's expired


frakthal

Empty pockets


ccc888

Think the rich still have larger wardrobes


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Legitimate_Gain_9215

humility


firelock_ny

Consequences for their actions.


ADPXEROX

Monkeypox


WideAbbreviations205

Bills


Fuck_Perry

A soul


Each0to0their0own

Empty bank accounts?


arl1435

"Nothing"


mostlycumatnight

Nothing


Assblass

Nothing


darth_shinji_ikari

nothing


potato13254

Money problems


imaVRmango

Hunger


MyHeroRemedy

Connections. Not surface-level network, but genuine connection with the people around them.


Lu1s_M1ll4

Love for others.


yehopits

Rich people are not capable of love, very well known fact


marousha_n

The ability to.enjoy the simple.things in life. Contrary to popular belief, having lots of money does not equal happiness


Prestigious-Day385

well yes, but it really depends how you define the poor. Because being realy poor sucks, and you have so many problems - how to feed yourslef and your kids, how to keep your family warm, how to avoid executors etc. - that you cant even enjoy those simple things in life.But if you have just enough to have those basics, and preferably little extra for some ocassional treat, then yes, you are right, you can be (and its often a case) happier then the rich one.


Odd-Astronaut-92

Empathy for the suffering of others.


ParkComplex3072

Self respect


3rdEyeLungz

Freetime


negamo21

This! When I'm from, most farmers are considered poor. But for the most part, they have a ton of free time. Because the only time the do a lot of work is during planting season, and in harvest season. Anytime in between that, they mostly do nothing. Sometimes they would check on their crops, pesticide spray and do some irrigation work. Irrigation work is seldom being done during the wait period.


firelock_ny

All the farmers I know use that "free time" on side gigs.


negamo21

The farmers I know doesn't. Well... some get involved in gambling (cock fights), so I guess that's one way to earn/lose money which ever way you prefer to think about it.


Pond-James-Pond

A grasp of reality?


Feeling_Plant_3935

debt


UpstairsPlatform2207

In a sense, the struggles of addiction


Ed_The_Bloody

Debt?


fatfox425

Over draft protection


Charlirbravo

Improve skills about why something obviously destroyed can be reused despite it not being even remotely saveable.


ChadFuckingThunder

Hunger, worries.


Bigbird_Elephant

Humility


arcaiyne_

Shame


wheelofka

Class.


stehchem

Disses


Gourmet-Guy

Stigmatization


WaterfallDragonCave

Debt


kenworth117

How to be a bush mechanic and getting the vehicle home


eddmario

Meth


mr_smilesXD

Homeless shelters


Random-Australian_

debt.


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more irs audits


Dry-Tie147

Poverty


nerdyless

Debt


GClubGlasses

Time


I_Was_Taken_5600

The ability to be poor


xMoosheLx

Old tech


PlainEggVeal

Tough financial decisions to make


redditreader1924

Debt


Minimum_Salary_5492

Untreated medical problems.


KinderJosieWales

a funny smell..


svgator

Relatable struggles


Pupsalotl

200 million of them don’t have food


Got-Poi

Street Smarts


GroundbreakingTax535

hard job


Platonica-Psycho

The will to somehow do work 24/7 even if that means sacrificing their bones.


a-village-idiot

Credit card debt


missouri-river

Time, unless you've got a 4-hour work week hack or some equivalent (I don't know many people functioning in society/working who have any time to themselves these days, it's a scam). You can only watch so many TV shows/soap operas and visit so many shops


applesandoranges990

more privacy if they are not very active on social networks once you are more rich than idk, 90% of people around you , you cant stop the rumors flow.... once you are one of the top 10000 richest people in your country, you must be pretty humble and not working in public to be unnoticed the society just does not care much about poor people.....so less attention they get....


Ambitious_Studio8461

Debt


ItzMaddie74

Honestly with someone these, coming from a poor lifestyle, happiness. My family didn’t always need money to be happy. We came up with cool games and stuff to make us happy.


zxz242

Financial anxiety.


novato1995

Basic a/o common sense knowledge. You'd be surprised at how little born-and-raised rich people know about basic things like how to turn on a stove, how to make coffee in a coffee maker, how to do laundry, how to fill their car with gas, where do emergency stairs go to, how to open a push-pull door, among many other things that us poor folk know by default.


Why_Not_Zoidbergaww

Less money


salmonsashimiplease

I FEEL like it’s genuine friends. I know that’s probably not true, but for all the rich people I’ve met, their friends seem so vacuous and petty.


Fearless_Lie_868

Time


bonniebull1987

Friends


1003939

Poverty


Fearless_Link_3464

EBT cards


Pxdzlol

Debt


NobleEnsign

Government issued ID's apparently...


St_Patrick6

ATVs


devilthedankdawg

A clear conscience


AfraidLawyer3515

In most cases the knowledge to work hard


Melsos

Shorter average lifespans


rgrtom

Debt.


Firm_Programmer_3040

Poverty


iDie4DaBloccc

feelings and caring for other people


Number60nopeas

money troubles


AcanthocephalaFair27

hunger


Boss_Tally

A sense of moral superiority derived from nothing more than having less? Maybe that's just because this is reddit. ​ Poor people have the same saints and sinners as the rich.


imfucked2020

A grasp on reality


stu54

Sympathy


encrypt_101

poverty


morgachev

Knowledge about bunch of things rich people just won't to do 'cause there are poor people doing it for them. Like a car repair or cooking.


FtFleur

Empathy and compassion it seems


carsoncanArtsome

Real world experience.


No-Breadfruit-2857

Humility


Cordoroi92221

Unexpectedly great generosity.


Godly_Tortle

Emotional connections with people you trust.


Grillparzer47

Debt


Civil-Attitude2174

Chain link fences


0-768457

Doesn’t apply to everyone, but, I think poor people have an understanding that if the first 99 sports cars didn’t fill the void for you, then buying the hundredth won’t, either


RifleShower

Debt.


potet-

Money'nt


Ddubsquizzee

Nothing


StateStrong5374

A lack of money


Hungry_Pool1601

The knowledge of stretching $20 two weeks until the next pay date.


the_best_satan

An empty wallet


Tat2feuille

Nothing. Poor people have nothing Rich people want nothing And yes this is a old joke


Standard_Effective32

Hungry


Legovogerl

Debt 😂


WranglerSilver6451

Strong family bond. I was poor, still am kind of, with very wealthy friends.


The_Farzan

(more) problems


RealFoegro

Money Problems


gayfreakazoid

bugs in your house


gayfreakazoid

Bugs in your house


iammiscellaneous

This feels like a riddle. Is the answer 'Nothing'? like the poor have nothing but the rich have everything which is the opposite of nothing.


acnadeau

Debt


ukid101

Ragged clothes


IrishDaveInCanada

A lower quality of life.