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AbominableToast

It's great to see Kaz up there on the "vote for" list! I met her over a decade ago now (wow I feel old) and TBH haven't really kept in touch. But she stuck out to me even then as someone who really cared about people and she wanted to personally take action, where as a teen I was more of a "someone will surely fix it" and she was "that someone could be me". We're facebook friends so over the years I see the odd post on my feed where shes trying to do something helpful, usually environmentally focused. Probably not worth too much but wanted to throw out a random endorsement, I remember her as a good person who genuinely cares and makes effort to do good, I'd like to see what she could do given the opportunities a council seat provides.


RewardOk4715

Kaz Yung is an absolute asset to council and deserves a spot!


username-fatigue

I wasn't there last night, but I know some of the candidates pretty well and you've summed them up *perfectly*. I used to work with Mark and yeah, the mumbling is his stand-out feature. This was pre-pandemic so I never had the pleasure of that particular brand of crazy. Josh is genuinely one of the best blokes out there - he's lovely and so is his family. I had the toss-up between Hay and Tupou as well...I'm happy with who I selected but it honestly could have gone either way. Campbell got my vote - Stallinger didn't have a chance. He keeps going on about how Campbell hasn't meaningfully engaged with the community, but I couldn't agree less. The consultation has been genuine and effective, and far, far better than it was under Wallace.


twentygreenskidoo

I follow United Hutt and Mayor Barry on FB. The Mayor spends all day in the community. Tony spends all day not replying to FB posts but taking every opportunity to say the current council is bad.


gypsymoth6

Excellent summary. I was massively impressed by Kaz, loved the way she got the groups back into order after Prabha rudely interrupted the format. Barbara Hay is a tricky one but she won me over. Passionate , experienced, and capable, impressive track record with diverse community projects and a mind as sharp as tacks.


Jhiaxus420

Glad to see Paris Winiata's name is not there. No ones got time for his and Destiny's dodgeyness.


Howard112222

What ever happened to the "Hutt News"? This used to be brilliant for election coverage, now we don't even get a copy in Petone. . Is it still published? That might be the reason for non-delivery. With the last election, they couldn't even be bothered to publish the results or cover the campaign.


mmp36

Simon Edwards was the editor, but gave it up to be a councillor (two terms ago). His departure from that role may explain the drop in quality and delivery, because he came across as very smart and switched-on. Probably a net gain for the city overall.


Howard112222

He was made redundant in 2016 as the Australian owners decided to drop local politics, local stories and coverage of Council and the Community Boards, and concentrate on repositioning the "Hutt News" as a run-of-the-mill rag. The odd thing about this is that the NZ owners Fairfax sold it to later have continued their policy of printed rubbish each week. .


mmp36

Ahh thanks, I didn't know that.


Massive_Working_9219

I also live in Petone and we still get our Hutt News every week.


bruzie

They stopped delivering to Korokoro.


RogueEagle2

Just checking my answers with yours and got most right :)


username-fatigue

Hehe - me too!


mmp36

I'm glad to hear that :)


CoolQuinn

"Generally opposed to current events" ,lol, that's a great line that I'm sure I will reuse


matty_jy

Great summaries! I've been agonising over who to vote for and many of your picks align with mine. Although I haven't quite ticked my six I'm confident I'll run with Yung, Dyer, Norton, Edwards, Hay & Tupou. ​ If there are any Central Ward voters out there here are some appropriately biased summaries: ​ *Glenda Barratt- Independent United Hutt* ​ Big no. Glenda is one of the old guard and brings all the baggage that you might expect with that. Over the years that I've been engaged with Council she (and I say this not to be nasty, just a genuine observation) has provided almost nothing of value. She did used to chair the Council's Accessibility and Inclusiveness Subcommittee and she continues to raise accessibility issues (good!) but I'm yet to see her be a proactive and effective operator within Council. She also does not live within the ward :( **Not voting.** ​ *Steve Hockley- Independent* ​ I had never met or heard of Steve before this election, although your experience would quite likely be different if you're a small business owner. Steve is a business coach and works with BNI although his community and Council involvement appears limited outside of this. I had a good chat to him at the Central Ward 'It's in the Ballot' and he is considerably more conservative than me but generally seems approachable and well considered. Views around housing intensification and sustainable transport don't align with my vision of the future but I didn't get a whiff of him being in an anti camp- opposing things for the sake of opposition. He has completed the [Policy.nz](https://Policy.nz), Gen Zero & Vote Climate surveys and has committed to the Living Wage unlike the other two Central Ward candidates. He has consciously positioned himself as a member of a potential Council team with good understanding of the business community, whilst acknowledging his weakness in other areas. I appreciate that and feel I could work with him as a representative. **Voting.** ​ *Faran Shahzad- Independent* ​ Faran works as a patent lawyer and ran in the previous Central Ward by-election so has a degree of profile. He is young, bright and, at the previous election, presented as having done his research and put thought into the future of the city. He should have been a natural choice for me but has proven to be entirely absent at this election. Faran hasn't been at any Meet the Candidates events that I am aware of and hasn't filled out any of the various surveys mentioned above to assist voters. Some of his communications this election make it appear that he doesn't fully understand the distinction between city and regional council roles (not sure that's a biggie, we need better cross-council cooperation). Faran is likely most closely aligned to me politically of the three candidates but the lack of presence and accessibility is a big issue to me. **Not voting.**


username-fatigue

Also, Glenda pledged to support the living wage prior to the election in 2016, then when the council was voting on it voted against it. I emailed her at the time to ask why, and essentially it boiled down to the fact that she was raised in a low-income household and she turned out fine. I question her integrity to be honest. She wouldn't represent her constituents, she'd represent her boss, who would be telling her how to vote.


matty_jy

Disappointing, I didn't realise that she'd previously pledged support to the Living Wage. Unfortunately that's about on par with my estimation of her. During the 2016-19 triennium she was the only Cr to never once vote differently to the Mayor so I think your concern is well grounded.


Neon_Tusk_of_Camblor

And she voted to keep ratepayer funded meals for councillors. Classic.


mmp36

Thanks, I appreciate the addition of Central Ward candidates!


patina_photo

This is exactly my thoughts on the central ward candidates as well. Steve Hockley is more conservative than I would ideally vote for, but Faran has been entirely absent at the in-person events and so has lost my vote. I’ll be voting for Steve.


username-fatigue

In case it helps anyone, some of the anti-everything folk got together and helpfully published a flyer together. They are: Simon Gibbs (Council at Large and Petone Community Board), Daniel Reurich (Council at Large), Kari Lloyd (Council at Large), Mark Atkin (Council at Large) and Tracey Buick (GWRC). Just in case you needed a starter list of people to not vote for.


mmp36

Good point, I got the flyer which is why I grouped them together, but forgot to mention that!


Bobthebrain2

Lol I actually did need this list! Thanks! Received our voting docs in the post yesterday and my first thought was…”God, it’s gonna take hours to weed through this list and boot out the anti-vax, pro-church, anti-climate nuts”


Kezza_35

I was at the same school as Campbell Barry and while he was a couple years ahead of me and we had minimal interaction he always remembered my name, even 10 years after finishing he ran into me at work a couple of weeks ago and still remembered me.


greengoiter

Not saying this applies to Barry at all, but just in general remembering peoples names is a pretty easy way to get people to like/respect you and isn’t actually an indication that someone is a good person or anything. Toxic political types can be great at making people feel valued in personal interactions.


chopsuwe

Your getting downvoted but you're completely right. No idea if this applies to Barry, I'm new to the area and know nothing about him.


gypsymoth6

I'm always surprised he can recall interactions from quite a while back and resume the conversation. He take a genuine interest in things people are passionate about. Someone who does things for the right reasons rather than boosting his ego.


MoeraBirds

Thank you, I feel validated in my political opinions! Great to hear Kaz Yung impressed you, she’s a genuine contributor. She’s a volunteer at the breakfast club at Randwick school and involved with a lot of other community work in Moera and Petone.


dissss0

Being a Moera local I know who she is but didn't realise she was running. I really hope her decision to not put up hoardings hasn't scuppered her chances.


MoeraBirds

Yeah I hope so too. If she misses out this time maybe she needs some non cor-flute hoardings next time. If she’s elected though she might have proved they really are a waste of resources!


Cultural-Agent-230

Thanks for this! I was looking at my voting papers last night playing ‘try to avoid the nutcases’ with as much info as I could find but this will help give me some more perspective. Glad to see some of my potential choices performing well


mmp36

You're welcome. I think the speed dating format really made it feasible, if they were standing up giving 4 min stock speeches I think the task would have been much harder. Also, the election is "multi-candidate first past the post" the utterly worst of all possible voting systems, which makes choosing the final slot much more difficult. Vote STV!


BR4DY_nz

We had the choice to choose STV 2yrs ago, I was a lonely vote in support of using STV for this election. Majority chose to run a referendum to inform the next election which: 1) confuses the voting paper even further 2) still risks an unfair system being used next election if people stick to the "easy" option of ticking boxes. My Daugher can rank things from good to bad, it's not hard.


RewardOk4715

United Hutt are anti-everything. They are also anti-government which is a problem considering that councils need to work with government about laws and stuff being passed. (The housing intensity thing is a major and three waters!)


Neon_Tusk_of_Camblor

Great review. I don’t know what it is about the hutt but every election it seems to get worse and worse on Facebook. The community page has been bombarded with posts attempting to sling mud in every direction and the United Hutt candidates come across as bullies. Certainly not helped by Milne/Shierlaw etc being major knobs……


katiehates

Also not helped by the main admin of the community noticeboard who is himself a failed politician


Angiebabynz

I got banned from the two biggest groups for arguing with sheirlaw and Rex, and it's been so nice not getting caught up in the online dramas anymore!


beatricethompson

There’s a much more peaceful community group called Hutt Community Group


BR4DY_nz

Wow! It's actually **scary** how spot on your summaries are of everyone after just 4 minutes with each person! As a candidate myself (thanks for the endorsement) I know most the other candidates well from weeks of campaigning together, and you've absolutely hit the nail on the end. Ka pai to your question, and skill to decipher each candidate into a few sentences. I just did a live stream on Facebook and talked about your great question last night before I even saw this summary. Thanks for coming along.


mmp36

Thanks, and it was a pleasure, although I fretted that my assessment of you was too harsh - you earned your place in my top 5, without a doubt.


BR4DY_nz

Na think it was a fair reflection. You were my 3rd to last person so my voice was going and your question was the deepest one of the night so took me a moment to gather my thoughts 😂


swillisam

You’ve got my vote. Your communication on Facebook on council policies has been excellent and informative. Additionally the rubbish rollout was needed and makes me wonder how backwards other cities are for not doing it!


Halfcaste_brown

You have the best signage. Both Cambridge Tce Brady's gave me the biggest fright the first time I saw them up! Crack up


SaveTheSparrows

Oh man, can someone do this for Wellington city.


SuiteG7

This is a fantastic overview. I went to a candidate korero a couple weeks ago and most of my votes align with yours for the same reasons (although I’m still dark on Josh Briggs for voting against the birthing centre while on the DHB).


toulousethemoose

Thank you from a fellow Naenae resident for a clear, articulate rundown of the candidates! Great question to ask them, rather than delving into specific issues - I love it. It seems like my values probably align with yours, based on your reviews so the 'bias' is helpful to me haha. I wasn't sure about the likes of Kaz Young and Chris Norton so I'm really happy to hear more about them. I have only got as far as my "absolutely not" list at this point.


mmp36

>Thank you from a fellow Naenae resident I swear every time I encounter a cool person on the internet from Lower Hutt, they are living in Naenae. There's tens of us! >I wasn't sure about the likes of Kaz Young and Chris Norton so I'm really happy to hear more about them. One of the things that made me *more* confident in my picks was whether I felt like those people could work productively together, whether there was a mix of council experience (Briggs, Edwards, Dyer) and new entrants (Norton, Yung) and ultimately whether they were going to have a long-term perspective to current problems. I'm glad I have been able to help!


username-fatigue

Ooooooh, I'm on the intergooglewebnetdotcom and I'm from Naenae! Do I get to be cool too?!


toulousethemoose

Clearly we need to form some kind of cool kids' club (showing my age, obviously)


gypsymoth6

I'm totally not cool as evidenced by my ridiculous joy in meeting a fellow Naenae Redditor in real life.


stretch_my_ballskin

I'm in naenae and I've run out of coffee - this morning is fukt. Good candidate write up, kinda matches the vibe of their written blurbs in the pack too.


gypsymoth6

4 Square open at 8.30am, check out Naenae Village Market from 9.30= morning improves.


stretch_my_ballskin

Let's see if a decaf takes the edge off while I wait for the household to wake up - last time I went out with the kids still asleep they thought I'd left them


mmp36

Absolutely!


username-fatigue

YUSSSS.


toulousethemoose

That's cool to hear - it's all very well voting for who we want to vote for but if it just so happens that we vote in a group of people with diverse opinions and priorities who might gel enough to be productive and have robust debates that challenge ideas rather than individuals then what they can achieve could be pretty great


gypsymoth6

We need a Naenae Redditor meetup after the election...


stretch_my_ballskin

Location? The subway sounds good.


username-fatigue

We can host a pot-luck lunch or something! We're in Kowhai St, and I promise we're relatively normal. :)


stretch_my_ballskin

Uhm uh, it's not the cemetery tho right?


username-fatigue

Nope! It's two cemeteries.


chopsuwe

Oooh potluck. Can pretend to be from Naenae? I'm actually a couple of stops further down the track but that's practically Naenae, right?


toulousethemoose

Also I'll get joy out of being referred to as a cool person for quite some time, so thanks internet stranger! Side bar, what do those of us who live in Naenae call ourselves? Or is that the first order of business when we get this club going?


BR4DY_nz

His summary of Kaz Yung is **spot** on!


gypsymoth6

Brady-shaped billboard enters the chat....


VinnieVengeance

I doubt it. She's a fruitcake.


nearly_american

Your misses runs the United Hutt coms mate, settle down keyboard warrior


ChopperNZ

What does that make your bat shit crazy wife then champ?


zedgeevee

Thank you! A really helpful (and readable) overview.


Chris915NZ

I worked with Peter years ago and have a huge amount of time for him. Brain the size of a planet and genuinely motivated to make things better for ordinary people. I regret I live in Wellington so can't vote for him, but if I were still a Huttite he would be top of my list.


username-fatigue

I think he's done himself a bit of a disservice by aligning himself with the 'Independent but somehow still United Hutt' brigade. I'll give him a thought next time if he stands, but I'll have some questions. Having a brain the size of a planet isn't enough for me, they also need to be a functional member of a diverse council and the block that he's aligned with doesn't give me that vibe much.


BR4DY_nz

THIS!!! \^\^\^ 👏 He 100% would get in if he was running independent. I think he doubted himself, and thought he needed United Hutt's support, but as you perfectly say he's only done himself a disservice. If he does miss out, I hope he runs again in three years as an actual independent candidate. He'd be a great addition


Chris915NZ

He's the current secretary of the Maori Council and very involved with his iwi - he's very used to achieving results with diverse groups of people with competing aims. No idea why he's picked that group tbh but I have a lot of faith in him as an individual.


gypsymoth6

I was impressed by him and his intellect but sadly not who he's aligned with. Bet he's great on project teams though. Would love to see him turn against the United Independent lot and use his brain for better things.


knockoneover

Going by reading his blurb alone he seems to invested in other areas to be truly focussed on Lower Hutt.


ChopperNZ

This is an amazing break down of each candidates - kind of a bit spooky in a way though as your thoughts towards each candidate and who you will be voting for completely mirror my voting paper as it stands 😳 I’m still currently one undecided and it will be between Hay, Morgan and Tupou. Leaning towards Hay as I voted TOP in the last election.


Massive_Working_9219

I am choosing not to vote Morgan as I heard she was not giving up her position as a principal, and while I think the experience of being a principal would be very useful for informing council decisions, I don't think someone can do justice to both those roles.


ChopperNZ

Ah I didn’t realise that - yes would definitely count me out for her as I would want somebody focussed and committed to the role. A shame as I think anyone that can successfully be principal of a low decile school like Taita would make a good voice around the table.


spaceritual_91

I considered voting for her but then I found a Dominion Post article from November 2020 about the Taita College sex education advisor who groomed and had sex with a pupil. The fact that concerns were raised about the relationship and no action was taken until the boy's family finally laid a complaint with police was enough to put me off voting for Morgan, who was of course principal at the time.


MacaroonDense1049

I've just been to the Moera version and broadly agree with you. I liked Gabriel Tupou a bit more than you.


mmp36

Yeah, I don't think he's *bad* by any means and I think he will grow into the role in time.


mmp36

To clarify, I expect him to get elected. He works hard, he's been super visible on the campaign, and he's got a lot of good attributes. I think he needs to work on showing his vision, but that's something I really care about - hence the bias. If we had STV, I would have probably ranked him 7th, in part because I expect him to do better than some of my other rankings. But in FPP, I don't get that option.


BR4DY_nz

Sorry I couldn’t make it tonight 🤦‍♂️ if you have any questions for me flick me a msg through my live chat on my website dyer.nz


MacaroonDense1049

Shucks Brady, you've got my vote already. I've never met you, but people say good things about you


BellBoardMT

Great reviews. I think you’ve given Gabriel Tupou more props than he deserves with a “toss up” tho.


mmp36

Oh yeah? I still need to decide on those toss-up options, got anything that might help me? :)


gypsymoth6

I found him quite disengaged, not sure he wants to be there as much as others want him to be on Council.


mmp36

Thanks, I did start to get a feel that it was more a "career move", rather than a burning desire to make a valuable contribution, but I struggled to get a good read on that.


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mmp36

Wow, that's awful.


Angiebabynz

Thank you for this! Very helpful!


katiehates

What was Ravi’s problem? How odd that she wouldn’t participate properly


gypsymoth6

She refused to stick to the order they moved around the room and pushed her way into chat with me. Don't know why as all my encounters with her have been terrible, but she clearly didn't remember anyway.


Lutinent_Jackass

I went to school and knew Brady well. He’s a good person and motivated. His community engagement is great as well


Green-Circles

Yeah, Brady gets one of my votes - he's refreshingly constructive - a real asset in the toxic mud-slingy times we're in currently.


Lutinent_Jackass

Yup, he was painstakingly optimistic at school lol!


Green-Circles

Hehehe.. well I think we're gonna need some optimism this decade. As challenging as the first years of "the '20s" have been, I fear we're in for a lot more in the next few.


aids_dumbuldore

I don’t know a lot about Prabha other than she asks to be paid cash for her dance business. Don’t want someone like that anywhere near council money.


bearlegion

Hoping someone will do this for Upper Hutt lol


username-fatigue

The only thing I know about Upper Hutt is that the Jordan chap is a literal Nazi. I've met him a few times and didn't get a weird vibe off him, but he was making every effort to hide his crazy. Please don't vote for him.


bearlegion

I saw that write up in the paper. Jaap is meant to be a super good guy


username-fatigue

I actually haven't heard good things about Jaap, or Keith Bennet. A friend of mine who is very, very into local body politics, and has similar views to my own, said to not vote for those three. I'm not un Upper Hutt so I didn't ask any follow-up questions.


PaPEE_81

Thank you OP. Fantastic run down, doing the needful for us too apathetic to really get a feel for candidates. I have my fingers crossed for someone to take the torch and do the same for Porirua. If already done, please hook me up 🤙


Tustin88

Nice write up. I never bothered meeting the Upper Hutt candidates but I did have a few rules for voting. If there is no statement of issues in their bio, no vote. I also singled out the anti-3 waters and the literal Nazi as a hell no too. Ended up being a small list of ticks.


Trentham_001

I’ve ticked and sealed my papers but not yet dropped it off. I wasn’t 100% sure about them all as haven’t had a great chance to engage with ‘meet the candidate’ events. Your votes feel so bang on with mine, I’m going to re-open and compare for reassurance!


mmp36

>I’m going to re-open and compare for reassurance! How did it go? I'm curious to know because I still haven't ticked the final box.


Trentham_001

They were pretty similar - 4 the same and I voted Tupou and Karen Morgan. I’m keen on keeping Karen as I have an unconscious bias and wanted a broader diversity in my votes. I’ve dealt with her as a parent and was impressed. She created a great culture at the school and managing a high school will have transferable skills to council - complex wide issues in your constituency that you need to work with to achieve improved social outcomes. She’ll also have some good bureaucracy experience dealing with Min of Ed. Although she’s green to council, I’m hoping she’s worth taking a punt on. Based on your experiences above, I’m changing Tupou to Norton. They had been toss-ups for me.. I’m in the Petone board/harbour ward so had some other votes too (including Fisher 👍🏼


Massive_Working_9219

Is this everyone who attended? Or were there some candidates who attended who you didn't get to meet/chat to? For me attendance of events like this is a key criteria in my voting.


Ok-Reading-8828

I was at the event. All of the Eastern Ward (3) and At Large (23) candidates were invited. 2 of the Eastern Ward candidates and 17 of the At Large candidates attended. One of the 17 At Large candidates turned up late and unexpectedly.


mmp36

Everyone who attended, I didn't speak to 2 (Stallinger & Ravi as noted here). This is also the only event that I've gone to/will go to.


Massive_Working_9219

Awesome thanks. I went to one of the two It's In the Ballot sessions for City Wide. The candidates were split over 2 nights, but I asked who didn't attend either and it was Evelyn Joy Richter, Rob MacDonald, Phil Stratford and Tony Stallinger. I was told that Tony didn't attend due to focussing on the mayoral campaign, and separately that he didn't attend due to a death in the family. Not sure which is true, but he did at least respond. The other three did not respond to the invitation.


Nasty9999

Won't be voting for any of the current useless pigs that have their snouts in the ratepayers trough. The last three years have been an absolute farce. Any one that wants a continuation of the absolute embarrassment needs their head read.


Halfcaste_brown

Ugh whatever Tony, Facebook is that way 🖕


Nasty9999

One day you might own a house and be able to vote.


redtablebluechair

I own two houses. Lots of votes for me. The last three years have been a massive improvement :).


Halfcaste_brown

Nah I love being young and homeless.


VinnieVengeance

I won't be voting for any of the wombles you are voting for. These left wing nutters are ruining our city and simply lack basic common sense.