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>~~Base Grimmjow~~ and Ulquiorra have better feats than released Yammy, Stark, Barragan, and especially Harribel holy shit MEGA FRAUD.
What?
In what world does **Base** Grimmjow have better feats than Released Yammy, Starrk, or Barragan?
1st. No offence, but do you know what a paragraph is? This is a nightmare to read through.
2nd. The feats aren't messed up at all, people just see what they want to see, so they can wank their favourite characters.
Take Yammy, for example. He literally almost kills both Byakuya and Kenpachi in a 2v1. In Chapter 422, the 4th division medics say: "They're walking around like they're fine, but they're badly injured." That is a stupidly impressive feat, and easily proves why he was the Zero Espada, yet no one gives him respect.
As I said, the feats are fine, people just have selective blindness.
>Take Yammy, for example. He literally almost kills both Byakuya and Kenpachi in a 2v1. In Chapter 422, the 4th division medics say: "They're walking around like they're fine, but they're badly injured." That is a stupidly impressive feat, and easily proves why he was the Zero Espada, yet no one gives him respect.>
No one gives him respect because far weaker enemies ended up damaging them just as if not far more badly then Yammy. Like Nnorita and a soul Society arc Ichigo
"the feats in the series don't make any sense so the fandom just has whatever ranking they want.." Lol I honestly agree with this bigtime. it's also funny how only Ulq & Grimm get shown using their Cero Oscuras or gran rey, each showed at least one of these, but the other Espadas never did. top 3 Espadas shoulda had better feats shown. also Yammy shouldn't have had his defeat offscreened either imo. it's all just unfortunately messy
> Hitsugaya’s feats against Yammy and Luppi (you know the guy Grimmjow killed easily)
I can't tell if you're that biases or just simply didn't actually pay attention Luppi was caught off guard and already near dead whe Grimmjow killed him, it's not impressive
> The answer is simple, he wrote himself into a corner. Base Grimmjow and Ulquiorra have better feats than released Yammy, Stark, Barragan,
Yammy nearly killed Byakuya and Zaraki in a 2 v 1, Starrk dismantled 2 Vizard captains and Barragan has to get hard countered by specific hax, be serious lmfao
> Stark roughed up 2 Vizards but he went all out to do that and didn’t even K.O. them.
"Roughed up" no, he nearly killed them, explicitly stated he held back the final attack to give them a chance to give up and run then got snuck bh Shunsui as he was about to put them down *all this with his hands in his pockets*
> And honestly how strong are Rose and Love without their mask, Shinji was portrayed as above them and he needed his mask to face a one armed Grimmjow.
Shinji "needed his mask" is such blatant misinformation it's actually annoying, Grimmjow got bitched and barely survived the challwnge of a single Cero against a bored, scoffing Shinji who was likely holding back as he comments about how he doesn't want to Damage the town
> Then he gets beat by Shunsui’s Shikai just because he doesn’t have much ammo left as if his basic combat ability sucks even though he was doing fine against Shunsui in base before???
Surely it's not like Shunsui stated he can only play game's that Katen Kyokotsu wants to play and he came at Starrk with an entire new movement that was superior in hax and abilities to the one he used prior
>Shunsui is strong but not that strong, he gets spooked by Unohana
So?
> who told Ichigo his reishi is comparable to theirs when he was only at half strength
Ichigo's strength is wavering the entire arc it's an entire story beat, be serious
> (not saying Ichigo was at this level pre Ulquiorra fight but it was pretty clear Ichigo was suppose to be above almost all the captains during the Arrancar arc physically).
You try to present the idea your favorite Espadas are the strongest cause FeAtS then blatantly admit they probably don't scale? Lmao
> Shunsui got one shotted by Aizen soon as he got serious along with 3 other fighters in 1 second in the Manga.
Yeah? Almost everyone un the arc is getting one spotted by Aizen, what a nonsensical attempt at a low ball
> but also consider he got his eye blown out by a non elite Stern Ritter who post 0 division Byakuya low diffed in a 3v1.
Pretty blatantly shown to have been caught offguard by Robert's Vollständig which the Shinigami didn't have info on at the time
> His feats against Lille is the only thing that makes him look good and that’s really just another example of Kubo writing himself into a corner and retconning ppl’s tier.
This is the same person that Yama called "transcendent in combat" as far back as the soul soceity arc and was gassed up in character book Masked as having reiatsu that surpasses all his peers and predecessors but go off
It's not a wild take it's stated by the 4th division medics that they're pretending to have only superficial injuries but they're actually in urgent need of medical care
Yammy was the strongest everybody in los noches felt his reitsu but yammy still persisted that he was stronger. It’s just the mechanic behind his power with the rage element. The ranking seem to go uliqiorra as a close second 2 yammy than everybody else.
Honestly, it depends on the day. Sometimes if I say Ulq #1, I get lots of upvotes, sometimes i get hard downvotes. Arguments I provide are always the same and never refuted.
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>~~Base Grimmjow~~ and Ulquiorra have better feats than released Yammy, Stark, Barragan, and especially Harribel holy shit MEGA FRAUD. What? In what world does **Base** Grimmjow have better feats than Released Yammy, Starrk, or Barragan?
Dude really let the Harribel fraud statement slide lmao
Could you format this better?
His enter key must be broken
1st. No offence, but do you know what a paragraph is? This is a nightmare to read through. 2nd. The feats aren't messed up at all, people just see what they want to see, so they can wank their favourite characters. Take Yammy, for example. He literally almost kills both Byakuya and Kenpachi in a 2v1. In Chapter 422, the 4th division medics say: "They're walking around like they're fine, but they're badly injured." That is a stupidly impressive feat, and easily proves why he was the Zero Espada, yet no one gives him respect. As I said, the feats are fine, people just have selective blindness.
>Take Yammy, for example. He literally almost kills both Byakuya and Kenpachi in a 2v1. In Chapter 422, the 4th division medics say: "They're walking around like they're fine, but they're badly injured." That is a stupidly impressive feat, and easily proves why he was the Zero Espada, yet no one gives him respect.> No one gives him respect because far weaker enemies ended up damaging them just as if not far more badly then Yammy. Like Nnorita and a soul Society arc Ichigo
I’m what universe does base grimjow have better feats than barragan and stark. What high shit are u on
"the feats in the series don't make any sense so the fandom just has whatever ranking they want.." Lol I honestly agree with this bigtime. it's also funny how only Ulq & Grimm get shown using their Cero Oscuras or gran rey, each showed at least one of these, but the other Espadas never did. top 3 Espadas shoulda had better feats shown. also Yammy shouldn't have had his defeat offscreened either imo. it's all just unfortunately messy
> Hitsugaya’s feats against Yammy and Luppi (you know the guy Grimmjow killed easily) I can't tell if you're that biases or just simply didn't actually pay attention Luppi was caught off guard and already near dead whe Grimmjow killed him, it's not impressive > The answer is simple, he wrote himself into a corner. Base Grimmjow and Ulquiorra have better feats than released Yammy, Stark, Barragan, Yammy nearly killed Byakuya and Zaraki in a 2 v 1, Starrk dismantled 2 Vizard captains and Barragan has to get hard countered by specific hax, be serious lmfao > Stark roughed up 2 Vizards but he went all out to do that and didn’t even K.O. them. "Roughed up" no, he nearly killed them, explicitly stated he held back the final attack to give them a chance to give up and run then got snuck bh Shunsui as he was about to put them down *all this with his hands in his pockets* > And honestly how strong are Rose and Love without their mask, Shinji was portrayed as above them and he needed his mask to face a one armed Grimmjow. Shinji "needed his mask" is such blatant misinformation it's actually annoying, Grimmjow got bitched and barely survived the challwnge of a single Cero against a bored, scoffing Shinji who was likely holding back as he comments about how he doesn't want to Damage the town > Then he gets beat by Shunsui’s Shikai just because he doesn’t have much ammo left as if his basic combat ability sucks even though he was doing fine against Shunsui in base before??? Surely it's not like Shunsui stated he can only play game's that Katen Kyokotsu wants to play and he came at Starrk with an entire new movement that was superior in hax and abilities to the one he used prior >Shunsui is strong but not that strong, he gets spooked by Unohana So? > who told Ichigo his reishi is comparable to theirs when he was only at half strength Ichigo's strength is wavering the entire arc it's an entire story beat, be serious > (not saying Ichigo was at this level pre Ulquiorra fight but it was pretty clear Ichigo was suppose to be above almost all the captains during the Arrancar arc physically). You try to present the idea your favorite Espadas are the strongest cause FeAtS then blatantly admit they probably don't scale? Lmao > Shunsui got one shotted by Aizen soon as he got serious along with 3 other fighters in 1 second in the Manga. Yeah? Almost everyone un the arc is getting one spotted by Aizen, what a nonsensical attempt at a low ball > but also consider he got his eye blown out by a non elite Stern Ritter who post 0 division Byakuya low diffed in a 3v1. Pretty blatantly shown to have been caught offguard by Robert's Vollständig which the Shinigami didn't have info on at the time > His feats against Lille is the only thing that makes him look good and that’s really just another example of Kubo writing himself into a corner and retconning ppl’s tier. This is the same person that Yama called "transcendent in combat" as far back as the soul soceity arc and was gassed up in character book Masked as having reiatsu that surpasses all his peers and predecessors but go off
Listen it reall shouldn’t be contentious to say uliquiora is the strongest espada but grimjow?
“Yammy nearly killed Byakuya and Zaraki in a 2 v1” that’s a wild take.
It's not a wild take it's stated by the 4th division medics that they're pretending to have only superficial injuries but they're actually in urgent need of medical care
That doesn't mean he nearly killed them though. It means he injured them badly, nothing too special in the scale of Bleach.
They probably fought eachother.
Kubo's writing in the arc was messy. To be fair, as is the format here, mate.
They are scaled quite accurately. Get real.
Harribel struggled to take out a mid tier captain. I think Aizen got his numbers mixed up.
Toshiro is top 5 captains consistently threw out the series
Toshiro is top 5 captains consistently threw out the series.
It was based off Reiatsu, not fighting capabilities. Anyone with half a brain knows Ulquiorra was clearly the strongest Espada.
Yammy was the strongest everybody in los noches felt his reitsu but yammy still persisted that he was stronger. It’s just the mechanic behind his power with the rage element. The ranking seem to go uliqiorra as a close second 2 yammy than everybody else.
yall need to finally accept that feats, screentime, ranks, anything don't matter shit in this series
Lol does this community just downvote anything that’s logical and based on facts and upvote anything illogical?
Honestly, it depends on the day. Sometimes if I say Ulq #1, I get lots of upvotes, sometimes i get hard downvotes. Arguments I provide are always the same and never refuted.