Somehow when I see so many fans feeling bad for Fulham, I get the feeling its more like they are feeling bad that United won because they hate Utd to the core.
Love how broadcasts always cut to kids whose teams are losing in the dying stages of the game, with the same narrative if the kid being in tears because this is the biggest thing to them.
The Fulham fan kid didn't seem to care at all that they lost.
Commentators are just so desperate to create a story because it drives engagement.
Yes, clearly him being a bit whiny sometimes is so much worse than players like the racist biter Suarez or similar cunts... JFC... (and that's not even mentioning all the rapists/sexual abusers past and present)
[EDIT] haha, the bias on this sub is pathetic. Imagine thinking anything Bruno does makes him more "disgusting" than a player that racially abused and bit other players...
I was rooting for Morocco in the WC match against Portugal. He wasn't my cup of tea then as he came across as irrational, theatrical, and petulant, but I can excuse that as being passionate. However, he was not 'despicable' by any means.
It's the equivalent of kicking somebody when they're down. Clearly the game was over so the additional goal wasn't even necessary. Just hug the lads, exchange smiles and move on. No need for more really.
He didn't get to do it for his other goal because he wanted to restart play quickly, he always does that celebration for his kids so when he scored again he did it. Sorry he cares more about his kids than the Fulham players lol it's not like they've never seen an opponent celebrate
Ok? So they shouldn't complain about being fouled because the other team have less men? Still idiotic reasoning there mate.
They should also stop scoring too.
Would 100% give Leno man of the match.
Absolutely nullified all of United's chances up until the reds. Had he not timed his saves coming out of the box the way he did, Fulham would have been 2/3 down by the time that the handball happened.
We look completely knackered. Can’t believe Fulham gave away the game like that. Praying the international break helps the team recharge before this final push
So, a few weeks a new precedent is set by the league that a player can shove an official and it isn't a red card offence. Bruno Fernandes is not suspended as a result and can play this game. In that same game Mitrovic follows that new precedent by shoving an official, which as was proven a few weeks ago, is not a red card offence. However he is sent off. The very same player who did the same thing a few weeks ago, and got away with it, scores the resulting penalty. This is English Football officiating right now. Disgrace.
The penalty wasn't a result of pushing the ref. Calm down. You also don't know what Mitrovic also said to the ref. Could have played a hand in him being sent off too. Also Mitrovic was more aggressive than what Bruno did.
There's no new precedent, the stupid rule that you cannot overturn an incident the ref has seen and acted on has existed for years. It is stupid but nothing new.
I'm saying this as a Fulham fan - they were not similar situations at all and I wouldn't have any respect for the league if Mitro weren't sent off for that
I'm less sure about Bruno but it didn't even look like he applied any force, just a hand on the back
Bruno should've been sent off but come on. A precedent wasn't set ffs. It was ridiculous that the refereeing team didn't deem it worthy of a red but that's on their heads in that moment. It *SHOULD* have been punished so we can't complain that it's been punished in this case.
The refereeing team ignored it. The FA also ignored it as retrospective action was not taken. It is only then fair to assume that the action was okay. Until today, where it suddenly isn't, why?
Preface this by saying I think Bruno should’ve been punished for his pushing the linesman in the Liverpool game, but Mitro’s was just objectively worse
Looked like he was genuinely about to start swinging at the ref ffs, Bruno just pushed a lino
Mitrovic's level of aggression was miles ahead of Bruno's. Shoved him, then put his face right into the referee's and you know he was yelling something in Serbian.
I agree, been saying all game he makes all the difference for us. So happy to have him back. Just can't remember ever seeing a player from the losing side get it!
Everything else aside. Feel for Fulham fans today. Better team for most of the game and a great chance to get to the Semis thrown away in a few moments of absolute madness.
Poor United were getting embarrassed on the day and they couldn’t bother to actually enforce rules after about 60’ :/ FA felt so bad for their dear United
Mitrovic has fucked it so badly. If he didn't implode the way he did, United wouldn't have taken the lead so easily.
With how well Fulham have played with 9 men, they could have held on to pens with 10.
Now he'll miss at least three matches in the PL (maybe more for aggression towards the ref, if the FA decide to make an example of him).
FA Disciplinary regulations:
>OFFENCES AGAINST MATCH OFFICIALS
Categories of Offence
96 The three categories of offence against Match Officials are as follows:
96.1 Threatening behaviour: words or action that cause the Match Official to believe that they are being
threatened. Examples include but are not limited to: the use of words that imply (directly or indirectly)
that the Match Official may be subjected to any form of physical abuse either immediately or later,
whether realistic or not; the raising of hands to intimidate the Match Official; pretending to throw or kick
an object at the Match Official.
96.2 **Physical contact or attempted physical contact: physical actions (or attempted actions) that are
unlikely to cause injury to the Match Official but are nevertheless confrontational, examples include
but are not limited to: pushing the Match Official or pulling the Match Official (or their clothing or
equipment)**;
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> Unless otherwise stated, the lowest end of the applicable range shall operate as a standard minimum
suspension. A Disciplinary Commission may impose an immediate suspension in excess of the upper limit in
circumstances where aggravating factors of significant number or weight are present.
> Threatening behaviour:
101.1 suspension from all football activity for a period of between 56 days and 182 days. The recommended
entry point, prior to considering any mitigating or aggravating factors, is 112 days.
101.2 a fine of up to £100, with a mandatory minimum fine of £50.
101.3 an order that the Participant completes an education programme before the time-based suspension
is served.
>Physical contact or attempted physical contact:
101.4 **suspension from all football activities for a period of between 112 days and 2 years. The recommended
entry point, prior to considering any mitigating or aggravating factors is 182 days.**
101.5 a fine of up to £150, with a mandatory minimum fine of £75.
101.6 an order that the Participant completes an education programme before the time-based suspension
is served or within 28 days of the Disciplinary Commission’s decision, whichever is the later.
Silva blaming the referee lmao.
Crazy post-match interview
Somehow when I see so many fans feeling bad for Fulham, I get the feeling its more like they are feeling bad that United won because they hate Utd to the core.
Love how broadcasts always cut to kids whose teams are losing in the dying stages of the game, with the same narrative if the kid being in tears because this is the biggest thing to them. The Fulham fan kid didn't seem to care at all that they lost. Commentators are just so desperate to create a story because it drives engagement.
For all his faults on not leaving his line, de Gea did keep us in the game before Fulham decided they had enough of the FA cup.
You mean before Fulham fell victim to corruption?
Well it was quite expensive paying off Willian, Mitrovic and Silva. Worth it though.
GG *Chuckles nervously*
Go Bruno
Fernandes, is he the most disgusting player ever?
Yes, clearly him being a bit whiny sometimes is so much worse than players like the racist biter Suarez or similar cunts... JFC... (and that's not even mentioning all the rapists/sexual abusers past and present) [EDIT] haha, the bias on this sub is pathetic. Imagine thinking anything Bruno does makes him more "disgusting" than a player that racially abused and bit other players...
People have a hate boner for Utd for some reason. Bruno has passion, reminds me of CR7.
He’s despicable but not the worst ever by any means
I was rooting for Morocco in the WC match against Portugal. He wasn't my cup of tea then as he came across as irrational, theatrical, and petulant, but I can excuse that as being passionate. However, he was not 'despicable' by any means.
Thanks, Willian, really changed that game for us, MOTM for me.
you’ve seen manchester now fuck off fulham.
Your gonna get smashed by Brighton.
So? None of your concern anymore.
thanks for your irrelevant input, enjoy your next few games without a manager, starting winger and striker 👍🏽
We got Solomon and Vinicius and Sliva had been sent off before we’ll be fine mate, gonna love seeing United getting smashed by Brighton.
Hope they make the final and lose to City at the end of extra time.
Hey we were fucking shit until Sancho went past Leno but if the opponent wants to give away the game you take it
Watching, waiting for Marco Silva to reappear on the pitch with a steel chair...
You proud United, making children cry?
love it
WEMBERLEYYYYYY
Sir, This is wendy s
WEND-ER-EYS! I want a flipping burger from the famous Wend-er-eys. I actually could do with a burger right now
Ffs completely undeserved from United to win this all thanks to the complete stupidity of two players and our manager.
Isn't that how it works. A team messes up so the other team does better and wins?
If your team is stupid that kind of sounds like it deserved?
Ah just let the man vent
I mean if Willian doesn't throw his hand to block it would've been 1-1. Bit of a reach to say undeserved as there was still 15 mins to play.
cry
Woah woah hold on. How are you calling Willian "Stupid" there?
So it was... Deserved?
C'mon Bruno you cant be celebrating scoring in the 96th min against 9 players lol.
Let the man celebrate for his kids you trash can for a heart
It's the equivalent of kicking somebody when they're down. Clearly the game was over so the additional goal wasn't even necessary. Just hug the lads, exchange smiles and move on. No need for more really.
He didn't get to do it for his other goal because he wanted to restart play quickly, he always does that celebration for his kids so when he scored again he did it. Sorry he cares more about his kids than the Fulham players lol it's not like they've never seen an opponent celebrate
Yeah why should he be happy to score
In a quarterfinal
United players screaming for fouls while playing against 9 men is pathetic.
So fouls don't count when you have less men? Lol idiotic logic.
Obviously fouls should be called you dolt. But flailing your arms around and crying is another thing. Which UTD players are doing.
Ok? So they shouldn't complain about being fouled because the other team have less men? Still idiotic reasoning there mate. They should also stop scoring too.
Because no other player in the world ever does that. Riiiiiiight.
Ez game *wipes sweat off fo forehead*
Fucking leathered that one.
We’re going back to Wembley
what a fucking goal
Gotta say, would have been embarrassing if they hadn’t scored at least 2 against 9 men.
~~Fulham giving a masterclass of 4-4-0~~ Well, I take that back
Why do you high press us with nine men?
This is how we kept conceding goal after goal vs Liverpool, need to score some goals by winning ball back with high press
It's a cup game you get knocked out if you dont.
Because they needed to get the ball back
It would’ve been bad if they didn’t score a 3rd
United should lend a player to Fulham for last few minutes, just to have an even game. I vote Weghorst
You want them to get worse man
He’s been playing for them all game wym
Smooth by Solomon
Would 100% give Leno man of the match. Absolutely nullified all of United's chances up until the reds. Had he not timed his saves coming out of the box the way he did, Fulham would have been 2/3 down by the time that the handball happened.
Why? We did not test Leno much before the red cards. Palhinha and Reed were Fulham's best players.
Or de gea
We look completely knackered. Can’t believe Fulham gave away the game like that. Praying the international break helps the team recharge before this final push
Hopefully Eriksen will be back too. Will be a major boost.
Dan James is one speedy fucker
So, a few weeks a new precedent is set by the league that a player can shove an official and it isn't a red card offence. Bruno Fernandes is not suspended as a result and can play this game. In that same game Mitrovic follows that new precedent by shoving an official, which as was proven a few weeks ago, is not a red card offence. However he is sent off. The very same player who did the same thing a few weeks ago, and got away with it, scores the resulting penalty. This is English Football officiating right now. Disgrace.
The penalty wasn't a result of pushing the ref. Calm down. You also don't know what Mitrovic also said to the ref. Could have played a hand in him being sent off too. Also Mitrovic was more aggressive than what Bruno did.
The issue is that you should complain when the rule isn’t enforced, not when it is correctly
There's no new precedent, the stupid rule that you cannot overturn an incident the ref has seen and acted on has existed for years. It is stupid but nothing new.
The assistant ref was holding Bruno beforehand. Christ, do we need to have the same discussions in every thread?
I'm saying this as a Fulham fan - they were not similar situations at all and I wouldn't have any respect for the league if Mitro weren't sent off for that I'm less sure about Bruno but it didn't even look like he applied any force, just a hand on the back
Bruno should've been sent off but come on. A precedent wasn't set ffs. It was ridiculous that the refereeing team didn't deem it worthy of a red but that's on their heads in that moment. It *SHOULD* have been punished so we can't complain that it's been punished in this case.
The refereeing team ignored it. The FA also ignored it as retrospective action was not taken. It is only then fair to assume that the action was okay. Until today, where it suddenly isn't, why?
They can't take retrospective action on an incident that a referee has already dealt with - whether it's the right or wrong decision made.
United fans pretend not to be able to read in order to ignore this.
No we can read, we are just clever enough to know that one decision does not set a precedent. Try harder btw.
Eh? Not like we haven't been done by inconsistencies recently either
"new precedent"? That's not how it works.
TLDR?
Inconsistency.
We don't know what the players said and Bruno was the captain, Mitro isn't
Yes agreed. Seeing how Liverpool never get reds for studs up tackles but Case was when bouncing of the ball.
Yes they are a joke, there's no consistency.
Imagine the fucking scenes if Fulham equalise
keep imagining
Solomon Miracle
Preface this by saying I think Bruno should’ve been punished for his pushing the linesman in the Liverpool game, but Mitro’s was just objectively worse Looked like he was genuinely about to start swinging at the ref ffs, Bruno just pushed a lino
Mitrovic's level of aggression was miles ahead of Bruno's. Shoved him, then put his face right into the referee's and you know he was yelling something in Serbian.
Bruno should have gotten a red for that, we definitely benefitted from some sort of pity refereeing
100%
These lot playing like we're 5-1 up, imagine if Fulham equalize 💀
Love Palhinha but damn De Gea really getting shafted there for MOTM
Palhinha completely controlled the midfield. I can't argue with him as MOTM.
I agree, been saying all game he makes all the difference for us. So happy to have him back. Just can't remember ever seeing a player from the losing side get it!
stop the count
Fuck it Dan James CF and we counter attack for a 96th equaliser to break hearts and cause more drama.
I had no idea Dan James left Leeds
That was the only sale we weren't incompetent on. Mugged Leeds.
should've just stayed as an "up and coming" talent at united tbh... he could've got a chance or two to pop off like Elanga or Pellestri
Nor did Fulham fans.
It's only the small clubs like Fulham and Brighton that ever get their managers sent off. Investigate.
Conte and Tuchel have both been sent off this season.
I said it is only small clubs, mate.
where the ref is from?
Like most of the refs in the league, probably Manchester area but “supports a lower league team”
you mean like Anthony Taylor?
ah the classic "I'm a Man United fan but I do not wanna say that because I have to be impartial" switcharoo
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Do you disagree with a single one of his decisions then? Otherwise what is the point you're trying to make?
Crawled out of his fathers ass some 35 years ago
Daniel James on the pitch? Might as well have gone down to 8
Mancs stink of the water you get from rubbery microwaved scrambled eggs. Horrible club, horrible city.
Hate the Manchester Reds as much as everyone else but Manchester is so much better as a city than Liverpool
Says the fucking savage that microwaves eggs
Still can't wrap my head around Mitro's stupidity
Fulham have played well despite being two men (and a manager) down.
fucking hell has Matterface got a bet going with his mates about how many fucking times he can mention mother's day? give it a rest you're not funny
he doesn’t have any mates
It's worse than that. Lee Dixon is his only mate.
Shout out Weghorst Least athletic overhead kick ever
I literally cannot fathom how people are watching these replays and not immediately saying “yep, right decisions” Like they’re fucking stonewall ffs
Who is arguing against the decision, even Fulham fans are agreeing it’s a penalty and a red card just plain stupid from us.
There are a bunch of people on here saying the ref is bent for making decisions he absolutely had to make. Not Fulham fans, mind.
mate just have a read through here, there’s quite a few banging on about “it’s United at OT what do you expect”
Its United, nothing we get is deserved
That cheeky card joke from Lee Dixon...probably would've laughed if I didn't hate everything and everyone right now
Everything else aside. Feel for Fulham fans today. Better team for most of the game and a great chance to get to the Semis thrown away in a few moments of absolute madness.
Even against 9, we still look lacklustre.
Imagine if they equalise 💀
I was typing a response but Bruno just answered that for us.
Imagine being such a delusional clown that you think we’ve somehow been bailed out by the refs. Those calls are non-debatable. Truly baffling
They've been slowly conditioned with all the other glaring handballs that haven't been given recently
Prob more the fact that the same rule didn’t go against Bruno mere weeks ago?
he should have been carded as well. this one was still much more aggressive, Mitro looked like he was seconds away from giving him a right hook.
Mitrovic gets rightfully sent off but Bruno can push a linesman with no consequence Got it
Poor United were getting embarrassed on the day and they couldn’t bother to actually enforce rules after about 60’ :/ FA felt so bad for their dear United
7 minutes lol
So we going to a back 3/2 lol.
Mitrovic has fucked it so badly. If he didn't implode the way he did, United wouldn't have taken the lead so easily. With how well Fulham have played with 9 men, they could have held on to pens with 10. Now he'll miss at least three matches in the PL (maybe more for aggression towards the ref, if the FA decide to make an example of him).
Yeah FA didn’t do anything about dear Bruno but they’ll make an example of Mitro
Can't hear you from down there
and Casemiro is suspended when an identical foul was unchecked the day before, but united is buying the refs sure
It was not identical.
I know, Pereira's was harsher
And multiple players injured by dangerous tackles that received 0 cards
Casemiro’s was always a red lmao What’s the identical foul you’re worried about?
Van Dijk on Onana ...
I never thought I'd see this sub complaining that punching a ball away from the goal on the goal line isn't a penalty/red but here we are
Who's complaining?
I saw quite a lot of people say he couldn't do anything to stop his arms or basically saying the referee heavily favoured united there
Quite a few people, really, but most people think it was correct it looks like
Everyone just ignoring the blatant pen because at this point it's not worth the colossal Fulham meltdown for anyone involved.
3 red cards in less than 2 minutes? GTFO
in 1:30 sec
Flashscore bug
Man if Antony was smart he'd be scary
Yeh, but Fernandes did something several weeks ago, so a red card offence in this game shouldn't be punished.
Mostly liverpool flairs, disregard them please.
Welcome to /r/soccer. You come for the rational arguments, but stay for the memes
“Antony’s through… he’s still through” is fantastic commentary
For 9 players they doing pretty good
There's a part of me that wants Fulham to score just for some more drama
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Manchester United at Old Trafford.
Coulda sworn we got fucking screwed over last week lol
Ladies and gentlemen, it's a brainless moron on r/soccer
How long will Mitrovic be banned? Isn’t it like 12 games or something?
FA Disciplinary regulations: >OFFENCES AGAINST MATCH OFFICIALS Categories of Offence 96 The three categories of offence against Match Officials are as follows: 96.1 Threatening behaviour: words or action that cause the Match Official to believe that they are being threatened. Examples include but are not limited to: the use of words that imply (directly or indirectly) that the Match Official may be subjected to any form of physical abuse either immediately or later, whether realistic or not; the raising of hands to intimidate the Match Official; pretending to throw or kick an object at the Match Official. 96.2 **Physical contact or attempted physical contact: physical actions (or attempted actions) that are unlikely to cause injury to the Match Official but are nevertheless confrontational, examples include but are not limited to: pushing the Match Official or pulling the Match Official (or their clothing or equipment)**; --- > Unless otherwise stated, the lowest end of the applicable range shall operate as a standard minimum suspension. A Disciplinary Commission may impose an immediate suspension in excess of the upper limit in circumstances where aggravating factors of significant number or weight are present. > Threatening behaviour: 101.1 suspension from all football activity for a period of between 56 days and 182 days. The recommended entry point, prior to considering any mitigating or aggravating factors, is 112 days. 101.2 a fine of up to £100, with a mandatory minimum fine of £50. 101.3 an order that the Participant completes an education programme before the time-based suspension is served. >Physical contact or attempted physical contact: 101.4 **suspension from all football activities for a period of between 112 days and 2 years. The recommended entry point, prior to considering any mitigating or aggravating factors is 182 days.** 101.5 a fine of up to £150, with a mandatory minimum fine of £75. 101.6 an order that the Participant completes an education programme before the time-based suspension is served or within 28 days of the Disciplinary Commission’s decision, whichever is the later.
3 or 4
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I think it's 4 right now, due to violent conduct, but the FA can extend it (and probably will) at their discretion
it's 11 vs 9 can we just try a bit harder to get a few more goals?
no, just rest.
Hate united as much as any sensible person would, but its not their fault that Fulham totally lost their heads.
Apparently it is, according to some on here. Fulham had this game sewn up but they lost their heads.
Sancho MOTM. Won the game by sending 3 people off.
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Odd that he picked a non controversial penalty decision as his moment to lose his head.
I feel sorry for Fulham fans there. Up until the reds it was an excellent game for them. No arguments with the red cards though.
Bournemouth fans have gotta be stoked for their match against Fulham now, should definitely get all three points there
I’m very curious what Silva said to be sent off
He went into the area where the ref looks at the screen iirc
Can’t verify but someone had said he threw a water bottle at another official
Is that also what nunes did yesterday?