By - am_2222
“It’s no secret that I am most definitely not a better tennis player that Andy Murray, I just might have played a little better today” - Isner
Possibly the best post-game speaker in the sport.
Medvedev is the GOAT but only for post-match speeches when he loses
even better post match press conferences, i still see press conference after AO final loss.
No thats andy roddick
A class act
Not as bad as everyone thinks he is
More than a serve bot
McEnroe walked so Roddick could crawl so Isner could soar
Dude gets a lot of hate on here but seems to be a stand up guy
People just don’t like that he’s a Trump supporter. Which is dumb IMO, it’s not a sin to be a Republican lol
I wouldn’t say a sin as such but it does imply that one is a massive bellend
Loving Trump is a bit strange, but if you think every Republican is bad you’re just straight up brainwashed
I'm usually not one to moralize, and I'm far from a leftist or socialist of the kind you often see mouthing off about politics on reddit, but I refuse to let people downplay Trump's abhorrent conduct, capped off by his assault on the U.S. electoral process, democracy, and the rule of law, which even many of his fellow Republicans in Congress condemned him for (including right-wing hardliners like McConnell and Pence).
That doesn't mean I'm gonna dismiss every single one of his supporters as an immediate scumbag. People are complicated. But Trump himself is an irredeemable cockroach. The world will be a far better place when he's dead.
Trump tried to overthrow US democracy, he caused Roe v Wade to be obliterated. These are real world consequences for supporting that piece of shit. It is not in the slightest bit irrational to hate him and his supporters.
THIS. It’s one thing to be a republican. It’s a whole other [morale issue] to support Trump.
Unfortunately it's becoming harder to define the difference here. It's not just Trump who's responsible for Roe coming down. Many Republicans were required to create the current supreme court.
Yeah and Biden's done a fantastic job has he? Why don't you Google "Obama 90%"?
Why didn't the democrats move to rattify Roe into law again? Oh that's right, so they can hang it over their support base to get votes.
This is far from saying Republicans aren't nutjobs but democrats can be significantly worse in a number of ways
Both parties are rotten, the two party system in your country needs to go
They don’t wanna hear it lol. I went from 50 upvotes to like -17 downvotes overnight. I’m apolitical but apparently some people are super soft regarding this stuff.
John Isner is a good person regardless of his political affiliations, and anyone who thinks otherwise is pretty pathetic
I've been on reddit long enough to know it isn't the bastion of nuanced debate, there's echo chambers on ever corner of reddit inhabiting all sociopolitical spectrums, but all the Isner hate just because he's a Republican is absurd. He's by all means a decent dude and off the court
It's like suggesting everyone who voted for Trump wanted to topple democracy or are all racist. Funny considering the opposition, too.
That’s just the way the world is today lol. If you’re not a raging liberal you’re the devil incarnate
"he caused Roe v Wade to be obliterated"
So he saved the lives of millions of babies in the US going forward? GOOD!
PS: Regardless of your views on abortion, Roe v Wade was bad law. Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that.
So what if I get raped at 16 and then am forced to have a child which I never wanted and am forced to feed it and nurture it through while juggling school exams and university applications. Think about that
Yes, let's punish the children with death for the sins of their father.
Also, just a question since you're bringing up rape as a reason to allow abortion. If we allow abortion in the case of rape, but ban it in all other cases, then would you be okay with it?
If you can’t tell from the language used, I’m not from the US. Politics is a lot more left wing in Europe so we widely regard American republicans to be completely bat shit insane, so you may be preaching to the wrong quoir here
Haha idk what to say man. With all due respect, again, that just sounds extremely brainwashed. I stay the hell away from politics because it’s just not worth it. But I know a ton of absolutely horrible people who lean left, lean right, don’t care, etc. To say people who lean more right are just generally worse is unfounded
You're not gonna get far with this view on Reddit. Majority of users here claim to be balanced in their view but have some irrational hatred of the right and conservatives.
America in general is rotten. There is some cognitive dissonance over how America operated under Trump and his bigoted views when the body count under Obama rivals genocidal dictators lmao. The Clintons are no doubt heavily complicit in extensive sexual predatory rings given the objective fact of their friendliness with Weinstein and Epstein. People are happy to shun these off as conspiracy theories but are quick to assume the worst conspiracies relating to politicians and judges they don't align with. It's probably true that both Kavanaugh raped a woman and that Biden has a thing for young girls.
It's not irrational when the right has demonstrated time and time again that they don't care about minorities, women, the poor, LGBTQ+ communities and basically any societal group that actually needs help. It also doesn't help that they're more focused on establishing a theocracy than actually doing useful things like making healthcare and education more affordable.
Policy wise, the left don't really care either. Whether left or right, in modern history, America has operated as an oppressive regime couching itself as the free world while doing so. Reddit watched on while the Obama administration dropped bombs on Syrian civilians, but one of the most upvoted posts on Reddit is literally a thank you post to Obama lol.
I'm not aligning with Trump or the right but it's insane that even now this self awareness hasn't kicked in.
it’s ok to be republican. but if one is trump supporter right now they are probably something of a hateful pos inside.
The entire party stands for policies that protect the extremely wealthy at the cost of everyone else, and try to roll back basic rights and protections on social issues.
Even ignoring all that, the GOP did a lot to protect Trump at his worst, and people who still support them deserve to get stick for that.
Maybe that's just my European lens though, and my view has been skewed by seeing that when democratic socialism is put into practice it creates a nicer and more equal society.
Eh there are quite a few decent people that have supported and been brainwashed by massive bellends like Trump.
No sin to be a Republican, but a supporter of one of the worst world leaders in history? Yes, that's a sin.
The only thing stopping him from making a Fascist state was the time restriction and his own ineptitude.
It isn't a sin to be a Republican, but it does show you're willing to stomach some fairly horrifying social policies in order to protect the wealth and power of the ultra rich...
Fuck is he ?? I used to like him...
I don’t know all the details of it. Again, supporting TRUMP is pretty gross. Being a Republican is totally fine. I do know that a shit ton of people (maybe Isner included) don’t actually like Trump, it was just the only option other than having a senile corrupt guy like Biden in office. It’s sucks being an American right now because there are really no good options lol. Which is why I stay away from it all. Plus I spent the majority of my life overseas traveling for tennis so I never really cared for politics anyways if that makes sense
So to answer your question, I really don’t know about Isner’s love for Trump, but I do know for a fact he’s a Republican and a proud one at that
So sick of this "both sides are the same" shit. I'd take a garden variety slimy politician like Biden 100 times out of 100 over a man who lead a treasonous insurrection and tried to destroy American democracy. And that's no exaggeration, because that's exactly what Trump tried to do
You also know that the GOP is far from innocent in everything that Trump did, and all of the horrific things that the Republicans have stood for before Trump?
“Senile corrupt guy”
Judge a tennis player by his record and court side manner, not his believes or political views.
Is he even a Trump supporter? I know he said he wouldn’t mind if Trump attended his Wimbledon 2019 finally, but has he expressed support for Trump elsewhere?
This might be unpopular but I think it is a massive failing to support the Republicans in these times!!
Wow, humble guy.
Rest of his game clicked better than usual today too; good match, he'll be a name to watch if he can pull off a few good wins in the next couple rounds
Sinner destroyed him in their last bout but it's different circumstances and conditions now, I won't be surprised if that match is far tighter
When did sinner destroy him? Only time they played Isner won
In the Davis Cup last year sinner beat him 6-2 6-0 I believe?
Ah, you’re right! Google doesn’t include Davis cup results for some reason. Consider me corrected.
How the hell did Isner get bagelled? Was he injured?
I think he wasn’t in the best form (esp for most of last year) but Sinner was also insanely strong for that part of the year
nope, at Davis Cup last year, Sinner won first set 6 2 then gave Isner I believe only his second ever bagel in his career
Even google gave up understanding the davis cup
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I was really shocked at the behaviour of the crowd during the match - it’s fine to back Murray but the interrupting before matches started was outrageous.
I was surprised they didn’t get shushed more.
So I thought during Isner’s speech when he mentioned how great the crowd had been, followed by a steely face he was definitely being sarcastic.
He was just trying to prevent English crowd from turning into Australian crowd through his speech
A little off topic but John Isner is really tall 😳
Always has been
[Always has been](https://i.imgur.com/j0V08vR.png)
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What about as a newborn? Was he tall for his 1 hour age bracket or tall compared to the rest of the population at that age?
I love how r/tennis shit on American conservatives, but worship, for example Sakkari, who is also a right winger and her bf belongs to one of the most corrupt families in Greece.
Edit: I'm not a conservative, just a European who knows a little about Greek politics.
I didn't know Sakkari was a right winger it's hard to keep up on every countries politics. It's up to you to keep us up on this kind of stuff.
Yeah, you're right about that.
I've always been pro-Sakkari is she far right?
Nah, definitely not far right. Mitsotakis government panders to religion, army, police with a lot of media propaganda, but the vast majority isn't anti vax or anti abortion or climate deniers. Of course his party also includes 5-6 fascists who support the military coup of 1967. The one thing that they have in common with GOP, is their hatred for the working class and their friendship with big companies which pushes every year more people to poverty.
Also, a lot of scandals with corruption and cover ups of their high profile friends.
I'd be very disappointed if Sakkari was even right of center she seems so nice it's hard to imagine her being right wing.
Sakkari was way more beloved than Tsitsipas in Greece, but the moment her relationship became public a lot of people stopped supporting her, not for being right wing, it's just that Mitsotakis family is really unpopular in Greece.
Also, Maria made a commercial who promoted (not direct) the privatization of public education, a long term aim of this current government and made things worse
I guess my favourite modern Greek goes back to being Loukanikos.
Who is the Mitsakkis family?
imagine someone right of center being nice :O
Disappointed? Bro political views isn’t the fucking end of the world holy shit.
"The one thing that they have in common with GOP is their hatred for the working class and their friendship with big companies"
Clearly you are out of touch with American politics. All of the biggest companies in the US are hard left and crap on the GOP every chance they get, and the working class has massively shifted Republican.
lmao hard left companies
I think I saw they broke up?
They were rumors that they broke up, then they were rumors that they are back again, and the last official update of their relationship was around in February when he was in her box during the Doha tournament. Since then, my Greek friends said that there is absolute silence about their relationship in Greek media.
Forbidden love. /s
Well most Americans don’t know much about Greek politics or which way a Greek player they probably don’t follow leans let alone know who she’s dating. What even is this comparison?
My comment was mostly a defense for OP. As you said Americans don't know much about Greek politics or other European countries, yet some people were shitting on OP and other commenters for saying good things about Isner and for not being up to date with the American politics even though it's not their country. Not everything revolves around USA and their politics.
Most people learn everything they know about politics from social media sites like reddit and FB, which is why we Americans are so ignorant about many things. This is true for liberals and conservatives alike. Now can we get back to tennis?
Classy from John
Sad day for British tennis, both Raducanu and Sir Andy out on the same day
Classy from Isner
Thinks Coronavirus is hoax
Gives a classy speech
He’s presumably vaccinated?
I'm sure he is, but at the beginning of the pandemic before vaccines he was anti-mask and call it "theater". That word indicates he's a follower of Fox news.
Definitely a follower
Ooof history is not going to look kindly on that picture.
Is it not a theater, at least in some ways? I don’t understand how mandating walking through the door of a restaurant masked, only to allow removal of the mask when someone sits at a table, is anything but theater
Well, let's put it this way.
Imagine you roll two six-sided dice every time you walk by another human being maskless or another human being walks by you maskless. Snake eyes and you get COVID-19. Any other roll and you do not get COVID-19.
This is not meant to be accurate odds for the COVID-19 transmission rate.
It would be a 1/36 chance for every time you walk by a person. During the course of your meal, several waiters or other patrons will likely pass your table. Let's say 20 people do. However, on your way into the restaurant you pass 10 people. So either it's:
[A] 20 dice rolls to land on snake eyes.
[B] 30 dice rolls to land on snake eyes.
I'd choose [A] every time.
* Obviously you should wear a seatbelt every time you drive. But wearing a seatbelt half the time you drive is objectively safer than never wearing a seatbelt.
* Obviously you should never smoke. But smoking one cigarette a day is objectively healthier than smoking 30.
The policy at restaurants, or "theater" you talk about, is a funny example because that's how we do it in Japan. We have a lot of things that people call pointless such as limiting conversation during mealtime, wearing a mask when you run to the bathroom, and so on. But Japan has handled COVID-19 more successfully than the overwhelming majority of countries with people just following mask rules. Despite the crowded trains and more dense population, COVID-19 rates here are low.
It's not just theater. It makes sense.
Restaurants aren't the only public indoor places . Also for the very reason you mentioned, for some time in many places, restaurants were required to be takeout only.
Not everyone who thought a lot of the pandemic restrictions were political theater watch Fox News. It’s naïve to associate that only with right wing people.
I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt in this situation. I know plenty of people that had some odd views in the first few months of the pandemic that have since come to understand it better.
I'm with you except for the part where he was on social media promoting activities that get people sick or worse.
As if CNN is any better. Both are trash.
Good, maybe you should try being tolerant of people with different viewpoints.
Do we really have to tolerate all viewpoints? Do you tolerate all viewpoints?
“You coronabros can stay in your basement all you want. I choose to live my life and play/promote the sport I love in a safe manner.”
\--John Isner, July 2020, before any vaccines were available and while he was against mask wearing...
Where's the reference to the hoax? Sincerely asking. People can reasonably disagree about safety protocols while still recognizing the reality of the virus.
In his defense, tennis is a pretty socially distanced sport
The game itself is, but everything else that has to go on to make a tournament? Remember Novak held his own tournament before vaccine and that's where he got corona the first time. I just wonder about all the other people involved in the tournament and what happened to them...
"and by 'safe manner', I mean by doing nothing different at all, as is my God given right"
Give it a rest lol. Crazy how people are still getting on him for this
After Jan 6, I'm sick of "being tolerant"... as the right-wingers say, he should "just shut up and play tennis". And beside I just found out about this today. So I just want to make sure people have the opportunity to know who he really is....
> "just shut up and play tennis".
isn't that exactly what he did here? or am I missing something?
You're telling me republicans aren't all a bunch of demons, but a diverse group of people, capable of good and bad, with their own life stories and personal values, just like the rest of us? 🤯
Found the salty Andy fan
I was an Isner fan until he kept supporting Trump when Trump start losing his mind. I used to go to Delray just to see boombastic serves up close. But after 4 years of Trump talking about how great Putin is, I find it impossible to think of "supporting Trump" as an acceptable political position, and I'm okay with a lot of Republicans or at least I used to be...
I really hope Johnny has moderated his views after January 6...
Why does this bother you so much?
I have eyes
Aside from some extremely stupid political views Isner seems to be a decent person. This was a nice speech
This is the comment I was looking for 🍻
That was a fantastic speech. I'd always kept and eye on and rooted for Isner in slams following 2010 and that interview today just made me like him more.
"you had to stay strong, how did you do it?"
He is one of the most liked players on the tour. Nice, helpful and easy going. Always with respect to opponent. But you know, it's not enough when angry mob don't tolerate good serve or different political affiliation. Its only in US, the rest of the world like humble Isner.
And won the longest match ever
Lol yeah his politics are “different” alright
Fuck him and his maga trash views. Next!
I have literally never seen anything from him saying he's a maga guy. People love making stuff up
Yeah, we’re making it all up. Sure. 🤦♀️
Alright I’m an Isner fan for life. Hate his boring ass game but man does he seem genuine.
I found his game to be balanced enough to be exciting and worth rooting for.
Wow that speech made me like him 10x more than i did, nice guy
I love Isner. Not so much his tennis but he’s such a sweet guy, great sense of humour and lovely smile!
If Goebbels had massive serve would he be equally a heartthrob?
You people have got to be joking with comparisons like this
Big John, what a man 🙌🙌🙌
Edit 2: please don’t gate keep what we’re allowed to talk about with regard to players. In this political climate Isner needs all the good PR he can get.
Isner is a giant Trumpie MAGA bro. Get out of here with that nonsense. "Great guy," give me a break. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
EDIT: God, these downvotes. You people embarrass me. Tennis is like being a fan of Star Wars while having to go "yep, the community for this is total garbage."
If you're unhappy with how reddit works feel free to leave
It's definitely more that I'm unhappy with how *people* work, but thanks all the same.
Totally, he is for sure. Not as much as Tennys Sandgren, who is an out and out whackadoo conspiracy theorist, but Isner is pretty bad.
tennis is a bougie ass sport so of course the community is going to suck
He is a great guy. Who cares if he's conservative.
Conservatives can't be great people.
most reasonable reddit user
Gotta draw the line somewhere. Supporting Conservative politics means supporting so many policies and viewpoints that disqualify one from being a "great guy".
Once they change their views on for example women's rights, LGBT rights and poverty, then maybe we can talk. Though they wouldn't really be Conservatives anymore at that point.
the disconnect from reality here is astounding. wow. i recommend that you go out and gain some perspective by interacting with people whose beliefs oppose your own (in *real life,* that’s the important part). i think that’d be good for everyone.
there’s just so much more nuance to it than that. you are under no obligation to like them because of their beliefs. sometimes beliefs are so different that any sort of positive relationship is impossible. however, saying they are objectively bad people is simply unreasonable and quite narrow minded in my opinion.
I personally know and have interacted with literally dozens upon dozens of them, many of whom are some of the finest people I’ve ever met. And then others are some of the more annoying people I’ve known.
All I’m gonna say is that there’s a lot of nuance to this.
Are they really fine people if they vote for politicians with bigoted and cruel policies? The only nuance there is, is where you draw the line where people can be considered cool in spite of their views. And imo it's well before any typical Conservative views.
Guess when you go left enough everyone's a conservative
I'm not that far left though? Just a social democrat. I'm just talking about actual conservatives. I'm not sure what made you believe that I'm some kind of communist who thinks everyone right of Marx is a conservatives. If anything, it should be pretty clear I'm not as I clearly stated that conservatism stands for bigotry and oppression. I don't agree with plenty of liberals or centrists for example, but they aren't conservatives. I'm only talking about actual hard right conservatives like the Republicans and the Tories.
I thought I made that pretty clear, but eh reading is difficult
no when you go left everyone's a liberal, even conservatives
Least deranged reddit comment
\*smugly\*. Ah, excuse me, but I'm mature enough to appreciate Hitler the artist without dragging his politics into the conversation.
Clinically deranged take
Hitler as an artist is so inferior that he's not even in the same ballpark as Isner's tennis and everyone who pretends to like hitler as an artist is LARPing
Is every Lovecraft fan a white supremacist?
Is every Picasso fan a Misogynist?
Is every John Lennon fan a child abuser?
That's the dumbest comment I've ever seen. So Hitler was a great guy because his paintings were quite nice so if you just consider the field of paint then he's a great guy?? Is that what you're saying?
Comparing isner to Hitler is peak reddit
You obviously can't read, nobody compared Hitler to Isner ... I just used OP's logic about Isner with another name. Because apparently you can omit all of the bad aspects about a person as long as you just focus on one specific character trait, they're a great person...
No because Hitler is a shitty artist and everyone who says they enjoy his art are just smug LARPers who pretends to not be nazis.
Is every Lovecraft fan a white supremacist?
Is every Picasso fan a Misogynist?
Is every John Lennon fan a child abuser?
not sure why you’re getting downvoted. his likes on twitter are full of tucker carlson, ben shapiro, and charlie kirk, literal white supremacists who call lgbt pedophiles every day. and ofc all the usual anti-vaxx nonsense. but hey, he can sound pleasant in an on-court interview for a couple minutes so he must be a nice guy!
None of the people who mentioned are white supremacists lmao. Shapiro is literally a Jew.
“literal white supremacists” my oh my
tucker carlson has been peddling around “the great replacement” theory for years that all refugees and immigrants are being brought to america to have children and replace white people and vote for democrats. and all the other typical white male grievances. not sure what else you’d call that.
“typical white male grievances” my oh my
Alright so he’s got different politics than you and things are really divided right now, I get it. But his politics don’t reflect how he interacts with his colleagues and how he treats people with respect. There are plenty of liberals with good intentions who are giant assholes. Writing people off because of their politics doesn’t help anyone.
> so he’s got different politics than you and things are really divided right now,
Supporting white supremacists is not "different politics"
The guy spent all lockdown advocating businesses to ignore lockdowns and not wear masks while millions died of COVID. These aren't different politics
They are different politics, we are living in a time when both left and right are extremely distrustful of institutions, just different ones, and will thus resist any form of control by them
Knew there would be at least one person in here with this. Predictable Reddit moment.
Michio Kaku appeared on Fox News. Please find me Isner quote when he says 'im far right'. You won't. So what he actually support? Oh, Republicans. You know that Republicans are considered in Europe as centre-right? Or you don't? Can't believe that you can just throw some false label at somebody thinking you are right. Now you can start screaming and shouting telling Europeans that supporting Republicans are far right.
I don't think Europeans consider republicans as center right at all. As a matter of fact we tend to consider Democrats to be center right. Republicans are very far on the right compared to European parties.
Source: am European and I've lived in several European countries.
ah well if you source yourself and your anecdotal experiences you must be right...
Europe literally goes from Lisbon to Moscow - there's no real "European" view
Haha man there's a contest for the dumbest American in this thread ... Democrats are considered center right in Europe. Republicans are very clearly religious fanatics, sort of like MBS on Saudi Arabia. There isn't even a party for that in "Europe", only psychiatric treatments.
You have zero idea aboit politics but ok. Quick question. Do Republicans endorse gay marriage? Yes. How is this situation in Europe? In half of European countries even centrist parties don't support it.
You can't just say "Republicans endorse gay marriage" without ignoring that the Republican party has a national party platform and 50 state platforms. Not every Republican state party endorses gay marriage. Far from it in fact. The Texas GOP platform defines marriage as
>a God ordained, legal and moral commitment only between one natural man and one natural woman.
as well as
>We believe the Obergefell vs Hodges decision, overturning the Texas law prohibiting same sex marriage in Texas, has no basis in the constitution and should be reversed, returning the jurisdiction of marriage to the states.
Republicans are not one monolith.
Might as well be Hitler 2.0
Damn alt right, and to imagine conservatives still exist in 2022 smdh
Do the women, legal migrants, gay people and transpeople who vote for Trump/Republicans also hate all the above? Just because you're on the right and see how insane the left is doesn't mean you hate any of these groups lmao
Isner is a strong contender for the worst person in the top 100. If you're not aware of it, that's okay but don't spew idiocies like that though ...
Are we really comparing someone with questionable politics with a domestic abuser lol