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Coneman_Joe

Lol I wouldn't care if I got called out, I'd be thrilled to get a tweet reply from a pro tennis player


Nateloobz

Not just A pro tennis player, Martina frickin’ Navratilova!!


HelixLegion27

What's getting lost in all this is Novak knows about 80 matches played between Evert and Navratilova. He's just confirming that him and Nadal will play for another 7 years and will eclipse 80 matches played. Sorry next next gen.


Temporary_Bank_175

More like next next next gen after current gen


lonelygalexy

Soon we will see them partnering with their respective sons for doubles.


Temporary_Bank_175

Rafa: I won RG for 16th time when you were born.


Collecting_Cans

He also wrote… >“**Everyone** is my rival. Whoever I step out on court against is my rival and I want to win against **him**.” So Djokovic believes all humans are men, CONFIRMED. WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS. /s


cheerioo

Checkmate


Milan_Leri

Actually Evert and Navratilova are getting women's tennis into this, so they believe all humans are men. Confirmed. /s


Cyampagn90

Women are not real anyway


Trillination

Women = birds


Gordondel

Especially in England and Philadelphia


el-gato-azul

Only on Reddit tennis they're not real.


2oosra

They are not doing so well on Twitter tennis either


katrinabeluga

They’re NFTs.


fear_tur

People are quick to assume that no mistake was made when quoting what Djokovic said, happens all the time, even more when translating from different languages. But even if he said exactly like that I don't think people should really get mad at that, might've been a simple mistake, Novak has repeatedly shown respect to all legends of the sport, from both women's and men's side.


JPnets54

If LeBron James talks about a record he holds, I’d assume he’s talking about in the context of the NBA. If Diana Tauasi talks about a record she holds, I’d assume she’s talking about in the context of the WNBA. I’d apply the same logic to statements made by Djokovic or Serena.


theLoneliestAardvark

NBA and WNBA players don't play in the same places at the same time on the same broadcast and if Serena calls herself the greatest tennis players of all time then dudes on the internet get pissy and start talking about how men could beat her.


JPnets54

Yes, completely fair point. I was more talking about the ideal (what should happen). There is no reason to compare achievements of men’s and women’s singles tennis players because they compete entirely separately from one another. Same goes for every sport.


Both-Opening-970

Ok, let me try and clear this up, and Navratilova should understand this. In his native language and hers, there is a thing called gramatical gender, so if this was in serbian (his native language) it would be automatically understood that he is talking about male tennis, as in her own language. Same applies for Serena in your example, if she was by any chance giving an answer in Serbian (or in any other Slavic and majority of other European languages for that matter). Speaking the language and thinking in it are two different things, and why would he change his internal though process that goes on Serbian for English? I find those expectations rather colonialistic tbh. Last but not least, why would he even think about WTA when speaking about him and Rafa? I mean come the fuck on, give him a pass from this gendering going on in USA ffs.


Sad-Insurance9818

why give him a pass though? Its a sexist ( not particularly bad) comment, and demonstrates that most people say "tennis" when they actually mean "mens tennis", which is an unconcious bias that needs to change for women to be treated equally. Perhaps he will speak differently next time, and then everybody wins :-) Why not mention it?


katrinabeluga

It’s akin to actor/actress in English. Many languages have gendered words. > Perhaps he will speak differently next time, and then everybody wins :-) I understand England colonized and raped half the world into speaking their language, but not everybody has to cater their speech for a Western audience 🙂


Both-Opening-970

How is it sexist? If he spoke in his native language it would be igrač/igračica (m/f player) or teniser/teniserka (m/f) so no sexism there, and that is what I said. He answered in English but his answer was formed in his native language (which is normal when you speak in another language) You start your thought in your own, shape it to accommodate the language you speak. To expect someone, who is not a linguist or talented for languages to follow all the nuances is not fair to say the least (one could even use some of the "ism" words as well). You are holding him up to a native speaker standard, which is not fair to say the least. If this was said in Serbian and translated to English you would have your male tennis player designation you want. Just cuz he is fluent in English doesn't mean he know all the nuances of the language and no one should expect him to be. Majority of the tour is at B1 level judging by their press conferences.


Sad-Insurance9818

Im sure if he's not aware, then he will be pleased to know, so next time he can talk about "mens tennis" instead of saying "tennis". I think its more likely though that he fell into the trap that many of us do occasionally, and was subconsciously sexist. Nothing to get upset about, but for sure something to think about in future :-) If i were to learn Serbian and made a small mistake that could be considered sexist, i'd be happy to take the feedback and try to avoid it in future.


Corporal_Snorkel69

In what way are men and womens tennis equal they have different rules different histories and different relevance in the world


OriginalFluff

To be fair she can argue that better than WNBA players it’s not 1:1 and they’re still separate. More like we’re holding people to minuscule sentences for no reason.


Wash_your_mouth

That thing about "average male tennis players will beat Serena" only started when the media started to push the narrative that Serena is the overall GOAT of tennis, both genders.


Admirable_Advice8831

Not really: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_the\_Sexes\_(tennis)#1998:\_Karsten\_Braasch\_vs.\_the\_Williams\_sisters


IndianBoglehead

That’s because there is a huge skill gap between men’s and women’s tennis. Serena will not beat even the 1000th ranked men’s tennis player.


mate_is_it_balsamic

The point was that if Serena doesn't specify she speaking about women's tennis, people believe she's calling herself the goat of men's and women's tennis


Harrison0918

Bullshit, if Diana Taurasi said she’s scored the most points in basketball history (I don’t if she’s actually the leader for the WNBA) a lot of people, probably you too, wouldn’t think that was a good way of framing it


JPnets54

If that was true and she said that, my reaction would be “I guess she’s talking about the WNBA,” not, “Kareem Abdul-Jabbar scored more points than her.”


Rich_Strawberry_795

You and I both know that if she said she'd scored the most points in basketball history there'd be a million people on here alone lining up to scream about how she's wrong and an idiot and should specify


Sitting_Elk

Men's leagues are the default because they're a lot more popular. That's just the way it is.


rathansingh8

Exactly. It's like some male model trying compete with Adriana Lima, Giselle etc '. He'd be laughed out the door immediately.


Milan_Leri

This is actually a good point. If some man said he is tje best model in history, everybody would point out female models to dispute his claim.


rathansingh8

Yes, because the modeling industry is skewed towards females. Women are simply better at being models than men, in the same way that men are just better athletes than women. More strength, faster, can jump higher etc


Sad-Insurance9818

Men's leagues are the default because of male bias in society. "thats just the way it is" isn't a reason to ignore it 🤣


katrinabeluga

They’re the default because the highest level of performance is almost always found in the men’s league. There are very few female sporting athletic achievements that don’t pale in comparison to the male counterpart. Tennis is a rare sport in that the difference in level between the two gendered leagues isn’t as big as say basketball, which is why WTA is fairly successful and fun to watch imo. Most sports aren’t like this. I agree they’ve been historically neglected and I’m happy investment is focused into women’s leagues more and more, but in 30 years nobody will be tuning into WTA or WNBA at a higher rate than they are tuning into the ATP or NBA


Sad-Insurance9818

There is a lot more history behind why mens sport is the default. Like virtually everything else, men are the default and sport is no exception. Like you say, Tennis is similar between mens and women, so lets not pretend women don't exist by talking about "tennis" when we mean mens tennis.


throwaway24515

But if LeBron says he is the only person to do something "in the history of basketball" when he really means the NBA, then he is suggesting that basketball = NBA and nothing else counts as basketball. That's crappy.


jaytrain12

there's a reason why NBA consists of the best players in the world. there's a huge skill gap between the NBA and a league in serbia filled with delivery drivers


Sljivo87

Two time mvp delivery driver nikola jokic


DanielAgger

I was with you until the delivery driver bit smh


nameisprivate

dude you 100% would not let this slide if serena talked about "all of tennis" when she meant the wta


JPnets54

If she actually used the phrase “all of tennis,” in reference to a record she held, then I would probably assume she’s talking about assume she’s talking about men’s and women’s singles (possibly doubles too). But if she just said, “I won more grand slams than anyone in the 2010s” when asked a question about her dominance in the second half of her career, I’d just assume she’s talking about women’s singles.


Ongo_Gablogian___

If Serena had said she is the best in the world, we would all know she is talking about women's tennis. That is her sport. Why would Novak be talking about another sports league to the one he's in when he is referencing himself.


qualquiercosa82

But Serena is potentially the best tennis player ever, regardless of gender. I don’t think that example is a clear one.


superchinesehacker

To call Serena a GOAT you need the gender qualifier. Take gender out of it and serena is not even in the top 200 best players.


Corey_Treverson420

Not even top 10000 all time


MetalFrogg

Regardless of gender? Men are literally on natural steroid cycles since their early teens and are on average much faster and stronger, and also have more red blood cells to carry oxygen.


ishida_uryu_

I think it’s safe to say that Men’s and Women’s tennis might as well be different sports. When a male player talks about tennis, I automatically assume he means Men’s tennis. However it will definitely be very interesting if Novak and/or Rafa ends up with more than 24 GS. Maybe no one will bring up Serena Williams or Margaret Court when people talk about the GOAT anymore then.


[deleted]

Most people don’t consider Margaret the GOAT


ssch029

It's a real shame Serena couldn't quite hit 24 / 25 and surpass that POS Court


Ser_Dunk_the_tall

Don't know why you got downvoted. Court is a disgusting bigot


ssch029

Yep.. and a very outspoken one. Should have her name taken off the arena in Melbourne


Brock_Way

I think she should be canceled in the most comprehensive manner possible, and therefore advocate that not only should her name be taken off the court in Melbourne, but also that people should stop calling it a tennis court, and instead get in the habit of calling it a Tennis Ashe, unless the court is made of ash, in which case it is a tennis crematorium.


_ancora

Choosing to not honour someone who has done dishonourable things is not “cancelling” them. Margaret’s thriving in her church living her way, but she’s not a figure worth celebrating.


Brock_Way

I think your refusal to endorse my plan to rename tennis courts to something else shows that you tacitly endorse Margaret Courts views.


[deleted]

Keep finding things to be outraged over. I disagree with her views too, but I'm not wasting time getting salty over it.


callitajax

Exactly otherwise everything gets considered, is esther vergeer the alltime tennis goat? Because the stats back her up as it. But she isnt because each division is its own sport


Ser_Dunk_the_tall

I'd be pretty shocked if Rafa doesn't manage 2 more RGs alone


icwhatudidthr

\_Please hold my Carlos Alcaraz for a second...\_


Entropico_ARG

Ok lets do more interesting Join the wt and atp tournaments All are people no care about sex age or genre How many gs you think serena can win vs Federer nole rafa? Thats why wta exist bcs women are worse players than men If you win 20 european championships is less than 1 world championship


datscholar1

Women aren’t worse players. They’re just biologically worse athletes. I don’t think skill is necessarily different EDIT: For some of the comments disagreeing, I’ll clarify by saying that yes top WTA players would lose to every ATP player, but they aren’t worse by skill or mental strength, it’s just the physical differences (which admittedly are tied to athletics I know )


jbartlettcoys

What does it mean to say they aren't worse players if you accept they would lose against men? Sports are athletic by definition, athleticism isn't separate from the sport. I get the point you're making and agree with it - women's sport deserves to be taken seriously and the women are extremely skilled in their own right - but words matter and saying women aren't worse players is dishonest. If they weren't worse players then they would compete with men.


Steedy999

That’s nonsense


letskeepitcleanfolks

I don't know what it means to say "biologically worse" but "skill is \[not\] necessarily different". Everything an athlete does is ultimately biological in some way. Even granting some separation of raw athleticism like speed or power from "skill", I'm not sure where you can draw a line that puts men and women on equal footing. Men don't just have faster foot speed and harder swings, their greater strength and coordination mean more spin, more accuracy, better improvisation, etc. What is an example of "skill" that you could genuinely say men have no advantage over women in?


datscholar1

Gymnastics. Best gymnasts are short and flexible and have better balance


Entropico_ARG

You are looking for a ban? There are women whit and whitout penis


Doesntknowhowtofight

You are looking for cure to head injury?


WBaumnuss300

I don't think winning 20 European Championships (no matter the sport) is worse than 1 World Championship. But if you make the comparison with GS and 250 Events I believe it true. At least from a sport-achievement perspective.


Entropico_ARG

i relaly love WTA i normally watch more wta than atp matches but I dont think serena maria vika or iga can ever win an atp 250 that why wta and atp exist so best tennis players are ATP ones


WBaumnuss300

Ah, sorry. I didn't mean to say they can win an ATP tournament (they won't even win a match vs a pro). I wasn't agreeing with your Euro/World comparison and thougt you should better use one with tennis. But I guess you were talking about the women's Euro win. I thought you were talking about Euro/World in general. And I would gladly win a Euro from time to time.


SquintyOstrich

Djokovic is technically incorrect, which is the worst kind of incorrect! That said, I do find it tiresome to require that people constantly clarify whether they're talking about men's or women's tennis. I can't think of any other sport where that is a thing. I mean, maybe Djokovic actually meant all of tennis. But more likely he meant men's tennis only. Laver and Rosewall apparently played like 130 matches - no one talks about that or cares about that either, in this context.


kamat2301

>I can't think of any other sport where that is a thing. That's only because tennis has the smallest gap between men's and women's in terms of popularity, quality and prize money, globally speaking. In every other sport when you speak of a record within the sport, it's almost certainly men's so specifying that becomes redundant.


hawc7

Women’s golf is pretty good too I think but is mostly an American sport.


SquintyOstrich

I follow women's and men's golf quite a bit and they're basically never compared to each other. It's a weirdly tennis thing.


Bakio-bay

The ATP and WTA is more intertwined than womens and mens golf. I mean they play the same tourneys at the same time


GranPino

And they are doing crossover episodes all the time! I mean... mixed doubles....


hawc7

Then that only leaves Olympics where they have men and women comparison. Both of them have the competitions at the same place/same period of time maybe that plays a role for the comparison? Do the women’s golf have the same courses competition? I don’t really follow golf but I somehow know that the women’s golf prize money is quite good


roamiedumbass

Here’s the thing on men’s and women’s golf. It’s accepted that there’s a difference, and the average man drives it further than the average woman, so the women play on shorter courses. That’s it. It’s not like women putt worse than men, or hit their wedges and irons worse than men, and so on. It’s literally just a difference in distance, and it’s easily accounted for, because you already have courses that can accommodate for either end. Women have also competed on the PGA Tour, and distance is the main thing that keeps most of them from making it deep. But they don’t design golf clubs (on a professional level) differently for men and women, because there’s no need to. The major thing stopping women and men from playing the same golf courses is logistics. Didn’t stop both US Opens from being played at Pinehurst in 2014, and it won’t stop future events from doing the same thing.


hawc7

Thank you for the information! I knew about the golf distance but I just never thought of the logistics aspect of a golf tournament. Makes sense


SquintyOstrich

There's some overlap in golf courses, but they don't usually play events in the same place and the same time. There's often only one usable course at a golf venue and play for one tournament takes all day. It'd be pretty hard to double up unless you're talking a really big venue, and even then they'd have to play different courses at the same venue. Don't get me wrong - I'm not one of those guys who gets upset when someone compares women's tennis to men's tennis. That's fine. But I also find it annoying to criticize someone for not specifying whether he's talking about one thing or both. Especially because usually when someone complains about it, they're simultaneously ignoring doubles and wheel chair tennis. Steffi Graf's weeks at #1 record comes up a lot, but Esther Vergeer crushes that record. Just no one talks about it.


ChampagneWastedPanda

Wheel Chair tennis is incredible and definitely doesn’t get the respect it deserves


theLoneliestAardvark

Its because men and women play the majors and a few of the 1000s at the same venue at the same time and the broadcasts are the same. The Masters is only a men's event, Dinah Shore and Evian are women only and the other majors are played at different courses at different times so the tours don't really intersect in the same way tennis does.


distanced

It’s just as redundant for male players to constantly have to clarify that they are talking about their own sport, and not a different sport with different balls, scoring, and tournaments that they aren’t allowed to compete in.


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estoops

i’m a nadal fan but i’m getting so sick of how in tennis it seems people always have to clarify mens or womens to avoid being dunked on and labeled a sexist or something when we should probably assume if it’s a mens player they’re talking about mens instead of being willfully obtuse… seems overly nitpicky and petty to act like he meant any harm by this, they need to get over themselves 🙄


aryanvrm19

It really doesn't make sense though. I saw a lot of people talking about how men and women play at the same places at the same time but my question is do they play each other? The ATP and WTA tour are different.. Novak, Roger, Rafa didn't play against Serena, Venus, Sharapova, etc. Because they can't. So when Novak talks about his records or Serena talks about her records it is understood that they are obviously talking about their respective fields...


jolammy

Happy mury goat noises


dead_idols

Hate how this always turns into a little way for people to badmouth women's tennis. You never see horse racing fans going "Urm horses would absolutely demolish dogs in a race bro, stay in your own lane."


Popoye_92

Legend says thay if you say "WTA" 3 times in front of a mirror at midnight, a random redditor will appear and explain to you why women's tennis is the worst.


Rich_Strawberry_795

or about their mate with a beer gut who could absolutely destroy Serena Williams in a match without trying


grolt

I mean if the 4.0 could take a set from Rafa...


shudh_desi_gareeb

Men women different species confirmed.


Particular-Heron-103

THANK YOU. IF I HAD REWARDS I WOULD GIVE THEM ALL TO YOU!!!!!


_welcome

uhhh yeah I don't disagree with your point, but comparing men to horses and women to dogs is not the way to make that point


dead_idols

Tbf I wasn't being metaphorical with the racing example


roamiedumbass

You extrapolating that says way more about you than it does about Dead Idols


roamiedumbass

Funniest shit I’ve heard, I’m gonna become a horse racing fan just so I can do that /s


nuko28

f1 fans do that all the time lol


FormerCollegeDJ

The most played rivalries in tennis didn’t involve Djokovic and Nadal, or Evert and Navratilova. They involved male pro players who played on exhibition tours before the Open Era, particularly between the end of World War II and 1968.


faratto_

Imagine having to declare every time that you're speaking about the records/stats you can't change. People are strange, especially vips that should know better


letskeepitcleanfolks

Wait, why couldn't he change them? If he played Rafa 22 more times then it would be correct to make the statement he did. I do think VIPs like Evert and Navratilova should be above engaging in boring Twitter drama like this, but Djokovic's statement was incorrect under a reasonably literal reading.


ChampagneWastedPanda

Twitter is all about drama


Harrison0918

He could literally beat that record what are you even talking about?


direland3

Who gives a shit. Assuming the translation was perfect I’d still assume he was talking about men’s tennis, because, y’know, he plays men’s tennis.


GS1THOUSAND

I thought Nadals racket was a circle showing something that was referring to his dong. Really confused for a moment there.


shegotofftheplane

Way to leave out context. On the original post of Djokovic’s comment, 75% of the replies were tagging Martina and Chris (including the one in this screenshot) so of course they replied. It wasn’t unprompted bitterness like all of y’all in these comments are suggesting.


AncientLyte

Everts’ reply is ok, but Martina’s reeks of bitterness. “He literally said tennis” Making him look like a villain when he’s not. I don’t get why she’s obsessed with targeting Novak for no reason. So hateful for no reason


Rich_Strawberry_795

No it doesn't you weirdo


roamiedumbass

Hey buddy! Why don’t you share with us some of the other things that Martina’s targeted Novak for without reason? And no, “vaccine mandates” are not a valid answer because there’s a damn good reason behind it.


AncientLyte

Well, she is clearly making him look out to be some guy here who is purposefully ignoring Women's tennis when he does not need to specify. After novak won his first court case, she said "the best thing would be for him to go home." She recently stated while commentating that Djokovic only mostly gets love in Serbia which is blatantly false


Gamer_moment15

You're kinda right, Martina is a nutcase sometimes


roamiedumbass

You know what? Those are honestly kind of stupid. Not sure what the Serbia comment accomplishes, he’s obviously gonna be most popular in Serbia, and he definitely has followings elsewhere.


AncientLyte

Glad we can agree on something. Respect


brokenearth10

If you want to be all technical and stuff. He also didn't say professional tennis. I'm sure there are thousands of people on the planet who played each other more than Nadal and djokovic


Popoye_92

Virgins arguing whether or not Novak should've precised he was talking about men's tennis vs. Chads knowing he's wrong regardless because Laver and Rosewall played each other over 150 times.


AncientLyte

Pancho gonzales and rose wall played 204 times


Popoye_92

True dat, I mentioned Laver because his name is more familiar to the average person on the sub :)


theLoneliestAardvark

A lot of people considered Pancho Gonzales the GOAT before the big 3 came along. He was also Andre Agassi's brother-in-law and apparently a very unpleasant person to be around. "The nicest thing he ever said to his wives is 'shut up.'" He had no friends or money when he died so Andre paid for his funeral.


a_rose_is_a_red_rose

Yeah, it goes without saying that he meant 'men's tennis in the Open era'. Those who didn't understand should just watch more tennis so they familiarise themselves with the lingo. Yeah, I'm looking at you Chrissy. Case closed.


WowwwDude

Hopefully Djokovic recovers from his recent injury…. His eyes may not reset from how far they’ve rolled back when he read this.


[deleted]

Both Martina and Chrissie love making everything about them.


Rich_Strawberry_795

people were tagging them, so they responded


Swathe88

Imagine finding a way to be outraged about this. What a sad life some people lead.


Random___Burner

Why do they feel the need to try to be this pedantic publicly when they’re already well respected legends with media jobs. Seems a bit weird to be taking shots at Djokovic when they theoretically should be more secure.


dusto66

The question is which rivalry has played the most matches in the history of tennis. Everything else is irrelevant.


Particular-Cause-862

Have played some 250 matches of tennis with my brother, you werent saying official matches so you guys are incorrecto too!!!


StevenZervos

Technically correct! I can't believe Djokovic and Navratilova disrespected you like this...


Particular-Cause-862

Of course!, but i believe that some people have played even more than me!, so i am humble and i will not consider myself the greatest, i will let it to the fans :D


jamesda123

The answer is [Pancho Gonzales and Ken Rosewall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales%E2%80%93Rosewall_rivalry), who played over 200 matches.


We_want_peekend

This needs to stop. It’s very clear from context what he meant.


Slayy35

Lol they only want to compare when something is in their favor. Literally zero IQ to think he wasn't talking about men's tennis.


IanNovak1210

He is talking about men's Tennis, they don't need to clarify every time and walk on egg shells. We don't do this for any other sport.


Gamer_moment15

Why are you downvoted for this?


BeGood981

Chrissie: "me me me me me me me me meeeeeeeeee"


Rich_Strawberry_795

people were tagging her?


tenpostman

I mean you are in no way obliged to answer if you don't want to lol.


domithiemsass

They’re so annoying lol stop comparing mens and womens tennis


buttcrispy

Holy shit, they played each other 80 times??? That’s insane


Historical-Mark-6616

Laver vs Rosewall


Sad-Insurance9818

People hate to hear it, but if you refer to "tennis" and you mean "mens tennis", that is sexist.


scrappydoofan

Laver and rosewall played each other 170+ times


Big_Camera4181

Evert is so bitter about records ngl. Like yeah you and Martina played shit ton of times in era of when realistically they had no competition and comparing their matches to any modern player is kinda wrong. Fed and Nadal as much as she hates it MADE the tennis what it was.


kungfu_peasant

If Serena is called the greatest tennis player of all time, would or would not there be a general reaction that the statement be qualified? If that's the expectation in her case, it should be in this one too.


Rafarox21

Nobody cares about their rivalry lol


ViperKS_999

No one cares about Women’s tennis tho tbh


Rich_Strawberry_795

shut up virgin


loploplop890

Where’s muryGOAT when u need him


clapclapJH31

I’m sorry but it’s pretty obvious. Don’t go making up things about sexism because it diminishes real sexism.


greenghost12

I think the point or at least what I see is it’s “ obvious” he’s talking about men’s tennis , but if Serena says or someone mentioning Serena as the greatest all hell breaks loose. Everyone has to say she needs to qualify that. So fair everyone should clarify to be fair. Mens womens doubles wheelchair whatever.


clapclapJH31

This was a quote from Djokovic. If Serena gives a quote on herself being the best player ever, you aren’t going to get Novak, Rafa and Roger saying ‘oops’. This isn’t a random person doing it, it’s two all time greats


spas2k

I didn’t know Martina Everett played in the same league as these two. That’s news to me.


Fun_Cryptographer464

Yes he said history of tennis but unless specified we are always talking about whatever tour the said players are in. you just really cant compare wta and atp


Sauron2609

Martina is fucking cringe nowadays with her stances tbh. Couldn't care less.


huibuuuuh

Not only didn't he mention he's talking about men's tennis but also he didn't mention he's talking about professional tennis. I've been playing against the same teammates for many years week by week. So technically we have played more matches in the history of tennis than Rafa and Nole ;-)


crikeythatsbig

Andy Murray would never


Gamer_moment15

Old people feeling bitter about becoming irrelevant, nothing new


BlejaThrow

WTA is irrelevant, cope and seethe with downvotes, I want -500.


jsnoodles

I’m really excited for people to just ignore you instead.


BlejaThrow

+3


dead_idols

Watch out, we have a badass on our hands, folks!


BlejaThrow

It is just the truth. not many ppl care.


Dafuqyoutalkingabout

I can just imagine the comments from NoleFam that followed lol


3sc0barKeeper

Way to go bro. Didnt expect nothing else from than taking shots in that direction ;)


Gamer_moment15

Well deserved


kbar0131

Not only are they alright, they’re RIGHT.


thehibachi

Can see how some people view this as petty nitpicking, however we have to acknowledge that one of the reasons women’s tennis got to this place is that legendary champions like this have consistently refused to let the women’s game be overlooked. Probably a waste of everyone’s energy but they definitely have credit to spend in my eyes.


flamin_hot_chitos

A little bit of a "gotcha," but I don't mind it, just a little self-serving since they are, well, talking about themselves. Let Novak have his moment lol. That said, I love when Andy Murray does this


CantFindMyWallet

Even when he's wrong?


flamin_hot_chitos

When’s that? I’m mostly thinking of the US one about Serena making the Wimbledon semis (I think)


CantFindMyWallet

The one about Andy being the first person to win two Olympic gold medals. Andy corrected him, assuming he'd forgotten about Serena because she's a woman, but he was referring to singles, otherwise Nadal would have also qualified.


flamin_hot_chitos

I mean, his correction was accurate and the guy didn’t specify singles. Murray even noted he (Murray) was the first to defend singles gold. But you’re right that he could’ve also mentioned Nadal. Less noteworthy than the Williams sisters however, as they won a whopping three gold doubles titles together as well as one singles gold each.


flamin_hot_chitos

Downvoted for truth 😭


BlueJinjo

...men and women's variants of sports are different.. stop comparing them If feminists want to build up their own sports , I applaud the effort and encourage it but people gotta stop standing on a soap box to be offended ESPECIALLY when their intent is abundantly clear AND it's in their second language. If you hunt for reasons to be offended, I promise you you will find some reason regardless of how petty an opinion it is on social media.. I can religiously believe bananas are shitty fruits (not true ) and find a sub that's somehow offensive while crying on Twitter if I wanted. It just doesn't seem like a healthy way to live life ..


blrclubboy

Why does everything have to be a gender issue? Can't people just let simple things like this slide? Give the other person the benefit of the doubt! God damn, we live in such a charged world! We all need to take a back seat and relax sometimes! I think, our governments should just spray marijuana in the air once a quarter. And call it "quarterly peace day". Everyone just getting alone and eating together, and watching comedy shows and laughing together.


dead_idols

People seem to love goading athletes into this nonexistent gender war, as if we are still in the 'battle of the sexes' era of the 70s. No such thing as recognising differences and loving each craft for what they are. We childishly still see it in these boxing v mma debates too.


SalamanderSampson

When can we stop pretending to be interested in women’s tennis


AncientLyte

Martina always feels the need to badmouth Novak… just to be relevant


shegotofftheplane

Martina of all people does not need Novak to be relevant. You have such a hate boner for her, I’m sure she and Novak get along just fine. There are pics and videos to prove that


AncientLyte

Years ago, maybe. After his first court case went his way, she said “the best thing would be for him to go home”


Disastrous-Study5317

Navratilova is just a feminist degenerate last couple of years


sealonbrad

It’s kinda great that Nole is getting a bit of a ball stomp from Chrissie and Martina 🎾🎾


Nastypav12

Mountain out of a molehill; kind of a joking tweet to start with. Anybody who knows "tennis history" is aware of the Chrissie/Martina rivalry and how often they played.


Lars099

He’s a gigantic clown


Gamer_moment15

Classic r/tennis lol


KyoshiStanAccount

If y’all can’t handle being corrected by a woman in arguably the most lighthearted way she could have said it, it says a lot about your fragile masculinity 🤷‍♀️


zevlevan

Are we counting walls? Because Borg played against the same wall 7,355 times (and lost every time).