I believe that zverev would still be seeded, as he is ranked 12 now. To be seeded at slams he would need to be in the top 30 where the 30th rank is 1300 points below him, so he would likely be seeded in the cilic-coric range for most slams.
I kinda really think that Fritzy has a chance at beating Djovak today, he’s fresher, more persistent and doesn’t have much of a mental block like Tsitsipas. Anyone else think so too?
Ruud vs Rublev. Rublev have a 5-1 h2h against Ruud. Surprisingly Rublev leads their h2h 4-0 on clay.
Rublev won their AO meeting last year via retirement. But Ruud won their only meeting in ATP Finals last year.
I think Ruud will win in 3 sets just like last time. What do you guys think?
I love making predictions (I’m kind of a degen but I’m +EV sometimes).
This match is uncapable.
Not quite a coin flip, but close enough you wouldn’t know the difference.
Update on my drinking status, I am sobering up and have a headache already. I will however be doing this all over again tomorrow evening as I am a glutton for punishment and I need to get my liver in training to support Wales in the World Cup so I will say sorry in advance for my comments tomorrow tonight!
[Rublev's response](https://twitter.com/BwehRublev/status/1593760599041003520?s=20&t=p_bLxcgaMMOMjMObrCMtyg) to Tsitsipas' few tools comment was great. Him finally sticking up for himself and not hating himself is hot.
If Novak lost to Medvedev today, there is a very good argument to have described the slogfest as a Halep-Ivanovic 2014-esque mistake if certain dominoes are to begin falling this weekend. Halep gained absolutely nothing and lost basically everything killing herself in that match. Just because Novak has been so good, at this age, it doesn't mean we or he should even be taking any of his endurance for granted, like... I still can't believe he didn't just let Medvedev have at it (...and where was this defiance in that semi last year against AZ man :/ )
Thank fuck I don't have to see Stef vs Djokovic anymore for this year - was getting annoyed with it. Though not sure any of the others are any more entertaining.
I’m going to take this very dramatic moment in the Andrey v Stef tools war to declare that I always believed that Andrey had better hair than Stef. He leads their H2H in the hair war by 15-1 😌
The “few tools” is true, and Tsitsipas was the better player for a good chunk of the match, but HE LOST. Tsitsipas — Stef, c’mon, if you are so good, and Rublev is so limited WIN THE FUCKING MATCH!
I wanna say that I do not mean by this that he fakes injuries, bc he doesn’t at all.
But my God everytime he has even slight discomfort he is one dramatic motherfucker about it
A. You wouldn’t be saying this if he beat anyone else, you’re obviously sore because it’s Med
B. You don’t know his physical issues, the guy was shaking after the second set today
C. How was he dramatic about it? He wasn’t falling over on his back after every point, complaining, anything like that. He shook, wiped his face off with a towel, and took advantage of Medvedev not being able to serve out a match
No I think it’s a pattern. That shanghai match vs Delpo is the one that really sticks in my head. Fritz AO 21, Stan 2019 USO, and the bronze medal match last year as well.
The dramatics were around the 2nd set. And I am not even criticizing, i am a similar way. It can help keep you from mentally getting on yourself.
lol.
Stef always says what's on his mind. Never fakes it.
His comments were insulting to Rublev and he could have been more diplomatic, but I kinda respect his honesty.
At least both of the players I hate didn’t come out of that group 😂
Edit: and people say this sub is anti djokovic lmao. I mention I don’t like him and DOWNVOTES😂
I don’t agree with Jim about Mark. Mark seems like the type to bend down for Apo’s demands. He should have Feli Lopez as a coach and a mentor because Feli is less likely to take any of Apo’s demands and bs
I don't know how you do it, it's quite often a disappointment supporting Stef, knowing so well that he is capable of doing so much better than this. He also has to figure out what to do with his box, it's been going on for so long and it's not helping at all. Sorry to say but I feel he has stagnated. He has such a high ceiling, to see him like this is not fun.
I genuinely don’t mean this as an insult to Andrey but when I saw Stef’s group I thought this would be the easiest match… apparently not lol. But I think his win against Meddy yesterday will be really important for him so it’s not all bad
At least he doesn’t have to flop to Djokovic again I guess 😂
I know Andrey said not making the semis last year was one of the most hurtful losses of his career, so to see him come out victorious from a group no one really gave him a chance in, maybe not even himself, is huge
I'm close to tears, this meant the world to Andrey. So many people counted him out after the first set but he persisted! I'm so proud of him, SFs on the 3rd try!! Davai!!! 😭😭😭
I’m so happy for him! Always seems like the nearly guy!
He’s also got the better semi final match imo (has a weird mental block against Fritz recently)
Nothing specific but he’s been struggling to win close matches for the longest time and he’s been getting closer and closer slowly over time, he’s improving despite many heartbreaks <\3
is lopez pretty much retired? nothing is official and he's never revealed anything thru his SM(like Dustin Brown quietly saying goodbye earlier this yr) but it seems as if Lopez wont ever be making a comeback. He's out of the top 250 now too
I don’t think Lopez would want the travel of being a full time coach.
He seems pretty happy managing Madrid and taking on WCs (although he’s heavily hinted he’ll be retiring mega soon).
He’s got a baby at home too.
it's just all taking me back to that crazy medvedev match. if rublev hadn't won that one, ugh I would've felt soooo awful for him. what a journey this week this has been for rublev.
Well earned semi spot
Tsitsipas need to tell his family to F off.
He wont win much in the future unless he gets to be his own man and have his own career
Stef ending number 3 this year with Apostolos in his box every game must be a bigger achievement than winning a Grand Slam. I would have thrown my racket every game at him if I had him in my box. Impressive tbh
This is the fourth round robin match not to feature a tie break, and the first three set match not to feature a tie break.
With these guys on this surface? Didn’t see that one coming.
Very good win for Rublev.
Can’t wait to watch the adorable (Djokovic voice) Ruuuuuuuu players go at it.
Man, can’t believe Federer pulled out another win at his age
[удалено]
Just today with Nishikori as umpire lol
What is Zverev protected ranking options for Slams? He was ranked high when injured. Is his comeback gonna shake up the top of the draw?
Protected ranking doesn't give a seeding, it just allows you to enter into a tournament.
I believe that zverev would still be seeded, as he is ranked 12 now. To be seeded at slams he would need to be in the top 30 where the 30th rank is 1300 points below him, so he would likely be seeded in the cilic-coric range for most slams.
I kinda really think that Fritzy has a chance at beating Djovak today, he’s fresher, more persistent and doesn’t have much of a mental block like Tsitsipas. Anyone else think so too?
He hasn’t won against him once in 5 attempts so I would assume there’s at least a little bit of a mental block there
I'm 0-9 against Federer can confirm I have a mental block
Anyone have a win probability stat for Novak winning the finals this year?
65-70% (If you think this is low, it’s higher than you think it is)
Oh no I think that's definitely high considering he has two matches left to play. I'd think a little over 50%
This is the strangest semi finals draw I have ever seen.
Did you miss 2017?
Just catching up on the Meddy/Novak match now, I loved the ad boards going out, so much cleaner! Like Wimbledon
Ruud vs Rublev. Rublev have a 5-1 h2h against Ruud. Surprisingly Rublev leads their h2h 4-0 on clay. Rublev won their AO meeting last year via retirement. But Ruud won their only meeting in ATP Finals last year. I think Ruud will win in 3 sets just like last time. What do you guys think?
I love making predictions (I’m kind of a degen but I’m +EV sometimes). This match is uncapable. Not quite a coin flip, but close enough you wouldn’t know the difference.
Update on my drinking status, I am sobering up and have a headache already. I will however be doing this all over again tomorrow evening as I am a glutton for punishment and I need to get my liver in training to support Wales in the World Cup so I will say sorry in advance for my comments tomorrow tonight!
Did Novak mention anything about what happened to him during the match?
And the crowd was alive again?
Hi, i missed the match, can someone tell me why everyone hate Stefanos again
He basically said that he was the better player today and that Rublev beat him with the few tools he has
[Rublev's response](https://twitter.com/BwehRublev/status/1593760599041003520?s=20&t=p_bLxcgaMMOMjMObrCMtyg) to Tsitsipas' few tools comment was great. Him finally sticking up for himself and not hating himself is hot.
Damn, tsitsipas in the post match presser said rublev won with the few tools he has.
Honestly it's like he senses when I really start to like him again and then does something obnoxious
If Novak lost to Medvedev today, there is a very good argument to have described the slogfest as a Halep-Ivanovic 2014-esque mistake if certain dominoes are to begin falling this weekend. Halep gained absolutely nothing and lost basically everything killing herself in that match. Just because Novak has been so good, at this age, it doesn't mean we or he should even be taking any of his endurance for granted, like... I still can't believe he didn't just let Medvedev have at it (...and where was this defiance in that semi last year against AZ man :/ )
Rublev vs. Ruud Forehands only 3 sets As Casper would say, it’s more fun!
Thank fuck I don't have to see Stef vs Djokovic anymore for this year - was getting annoyed with it. Though not sure any of the others are any more entertaining.
Is it just me or does Carlitos Alcaraz get a haircut every week? He’s always at the barbershop getting his hair cut what’s happening lol
Lol
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Stef got punched, and he lost.
Ajla Tomljanovic on Insta 🤩 not sure if I wanna be her or be with her.
Matteo bb u fucked up
Lol Stefanos being all cocky when he was a choke away from going 0-3.
I mean everyone says Rublev has a limited arsenal but he’s so good at what he does.
I’m going to take this very dramatic moment in the Andrey v Stef tools war to declare that I always believed that Andrey had better hair than Stef. He leads their H2H in the hair war by 15-1 😌
Holy shit I can’t believe I have to ban you.
Not you trying to pull an Elon Musk on me 💀 Let me scream this on my way to Reddit jail: ANDREY RUBLEV HAS BETTER HAIR THAN STEF TSITSIPAS!!!!!!!
They hate you but you're 100% right
Periodtttt 😍
THEY BOTH HAVE GOOD HAIR
YES BUT ANDREY HAS BETTER HAIR
“I may be a one-trick pony, but it’s a really cool trick”
Just realized Tsitsipas and Rublev have played three years in a row at the Tour Finals.
Stef is such a fucking sore loser
The “few tools” is true, and Tsitsipas was the better player for a good chunk of the match, but HE LOST. Tsitsipas — Stef, c’mon, if you are so good, and Rublev is so limited WIN THE FUCKING MATCH!
Is Novak still dealing with long covid?
I wanna say that I do not mean by this that he fakes injuries, bc he doesn’t at all. But my God everytime he has even slight discomfort he is one dramatic motherfucker about it
- Pro athlete literally shaking uncontrollably - r/tennis user: "stop being so dramatic"
How the fuck is it criticism? I never said he did anything wrong
A. You wouldn’t be saying this if he beat anyone else, you’re obviously sore because it’s Med B. You don’t know his physical issues, the guy was shaking after the second set today C. How was he dramatic about it? He wasn’t falling over on his back after every point, complaining, anything like that. He shook, wiped his face off with a towel, and took advantage of Medvedev not being able to serve out a match
No I think it’s a pattern. That shanghai match vs Delpo is the one that really sticks in my head. Fritz AO 21, Stan 2019 USO, and the bronze medal match last year as well. The dramatics were around the 2nd set. And I am not even criticizing, i am a similar way. It can help keep you from mentally getting on yourself.
Gluten poisoning
Courier and Roddick beating up on Tsitsipas for his press conference remarks.
Where do you find the press conference
I was watching the Tennis Channel show after the match. They showed it on there.
lol. Stef always says what's on his mind. Never fakes it. His comments were insulting to Rublev and he could have been more diplomatic, but I kinda respect his honesty.
I hate this bastardisation of 'honesty'. You don't get to call 'honesty' as an excuse for being a dick, like Tsitsipas was
He lost though and its just bitching.
What did he say?
He said he was the better player and that Rublev doesn't have many tools.
looooool
Yikes.
He really makes himself difficult to like doesn’t he (not to mention being wrong about not having many tools)
Holy shit. If you were better, you would have won babe. They should never ask Tsi about doping in the sport. Dude can't lie
Rublev was beyond frustrated throughout the first set and somehow found a way. Mental toughness at its finest.
The Meddy-Tsitsipas 2022 curse will only be lifted when they admit their love to each other.
I mean Stef had a decent year
Djokovic plays someone with a German last name, Ruud gets a Russian. This feels familiar...
Fritz bouta put himself in there
I'll buy the Fritz over Rublev Championship
At least both of the players I hate didn’t come out of that group 😂 Edit: and people say this sub is anti djokovic lmao. I mention I don’t like him and DOWNVOTES😂
I thought you were saying you hate Daniil and Stef.
No. I mean I hate being a daniil fan but I obviously don’t hate daniil
See because you said ‘both the players you hate’ didn’t come out of the group which is pretty harsh. But also this is why we can never be real friends
Ahh it’s whatever no one would wanna be my friend anyway lmao
😂 indeed, friend.
I don’t agree with Jim about Mark. Mark seems like the type to bend down for Apo’s demands. He should have Feli Lopez as a coach and a mentor because Feli is less likely to take any of Apo’s demands and bs
Also then we get to see Feli.
Mmm… Deliciano…
Oh hey nice job Bweh
So, Novak’s won WTF right?
Yep, five times now
No I mean he’s won this one lol
He has his toughest opponent next. Fritzy’s serve on this court is deadly.
2 matches left to win. Ain’t over yet.
Come on g. He’s got it in the bag
Anyway it’s off season time and there’s no elbow injury this year so I’m keen for next season
I don't know how you do it, it's quite often a disappointment supporting Stef, knowing so well that he is capable of doing so much better than this. He also has to figure out what to do with his box, it's been going on for so long and it's not helping at all. Sorry to say but I feel he has stagnated. He has such a high ceiling, to see him like this is not fun.
I recommend watching literally any of the atp quiz videos because they always get Andrey because he’s an absolute delight.
“You’re lied to me” no, buddy, we do love you
I never understand how Andrey always looks so happy in interviews but like he wants to murder his fans (and I have been said fan)
Gosh Rublev’s little face when people call him popular 🥹🥹🥹
I read that Rublev stays and signs stuff for almost 30 minutes after matches.
When I met him he stayed for everyone!! Now everyone was just me but ya
He signed/took photos with everyone at the Gijon match I was at :)
Yeah I heard he and monfils are the best with fans.
Jim C.: "Stef has said time and time again that he doesn't want the input from the bench but they give it to him anyway...it's just not working."
His parents started arguing w each other ??
Seriously? Fucking toxic
Everyone was predicting FAA, Nadal and Medvedev and we got Rublev, Fritz and Ruud
All due respect, who the fuck was picking Nadal
Some straw-man in this guy’s head IG?
I'm drunk it would have been my mams 67th birthday today but I lost her back in 2018. I asked her to help him out today and she answered
Condolences. Loss of a parent is never easy :/
Thanks guys I'm fine! Finding this place and falling in love with tennis again has helped sk much, love you all!
Take care Princess
❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm sorry for your loss, I hope you're doing okay
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Rublev's one of the most popular players amongst fans. This is going to be a popular victory.
I genuinely don’t mean this as an insult to Andrey but when I saw Stef’s group I thought this would be the easiest match… apparently not lol. But I think his win against Meddy yesterday will be really important for him so it’s not all bad At least he doesn’t have to flop to Djokovic again I guess 😂
Certainly surprised Fritz and Rublev qualified for SFs.
Rublev came close last year TBF. Choked away a semifinal spot to Ruud…
Andrey doesn’t make the semis with easy draws but he makes it in the group of DEATH literally everything backwards with this man 😂
GO FRITZ!!!
Ruud's going to be in the finals 3/5 of the biggest events of the year. It's just meant to be.
I know Andrey said not making the semis last year was one of the most hurtful losses of his career, so to see him come out victorious from a group no one really gave him a chance in, maybe not even himself, is huge
Ah, didn't know that. Very happy for him, hope he makes the final too!
I am so happy for Andrey! As crazy and frustrating as he is, when he’s happy on court it’s the most rewarding thing 🥺
Tsitsidad needs to go. Telling tsitsimom to shut up (twice I think) is inexcusable.
She tells him to shut up a lot too, they both need to go
She’s just as bad as he is imo. Both need to go and leave him be
I'm close to tears, this meant the world to Andrey. So many people counted him out after the first set but he persisted! I'm so proud of him, SFs on the 3rd try!! Davai!!! 😭😭😭
I’m so happy for him! Always seems like the nearly guy! He’s also got the better semi final match imo (has a weird mental block against Fritz recently)
Stef really saw Daniil lose and decided to try it too, absolute besties 🥰
If I get, say, 60 upvotes on this comment. Which is nigh unheard of for r/tennis daily discussions, I will write a full length Stefvedev fan fic.
They can carpool back to Monaco ☺️
Stef has a brand new place if Daniil wants to crash.
What a year for Andrey, his mental growth is just so moving 😭
What was so great about his year ?
Nothing specific but he’s been struggling to win close matches for the longest time and he’s been getting closer and closer slowly over time, he’s improving despite many heartbreaks <\3
Replace dad with Feliciano Lopez
is lopez pretty much retired? nothing is official and he's never revealed anything thru his SM(like Dustin Brown quietly saying goodbye earlier this yr) but it seems as if Lopez wont ever be making a comeback. He's out of the top 250 now too
I don’t think Lopez would want the travel of being a full time coach. He seems pretty happy managing Madrid and taking on WCs (although he’s heavily hinted he’ll be retiring mega soon). He’s got a baby at home too.
it's just all taking me back to that crazy medvedev match. if rublev hadn't won that one, ugh I would've felt soooo awful for him. what a journey this week this has been for rublev.
My phd on Andrey tennis, psychology and Bwehism has clearly failed me 🤭
Happy for rublev. Sad for tsitsi and jsnoodles.
I like Rublev I hope him or Casper win the whole thing.
Well earned semi spot Tsitsipas need to tell his family to F off. He wont win much in the future unless he gets to be his own man and have his own career
I am so so so so so proud
Med and Tsitsi choked hard today.
And perhaps they shall choke each other tonight
You can tell they both like each other that’s nice.
They need to be bffs. I stand by that 😌
Sometimes I forget they’re not just drinking coffee and gossiping about Daniil all the time in real life.
Now I want to see this happen 🥺
YEAAAAAAAS
DAVAI BWEH
So happy for Rublev after he was so negative being in the stacked group and everyone thought he’d go 0-3 😌
The supposed group of death, two of them turned out to be total jokes
Another chapter in Ruud-blev (1-4) rivalry!!
I’m actually crying rn… Andrey made it 😭😭😭
At least his kit looks really good?
Can Bweh beat Med in the rankings now??
Yes, absolutely
Feel bad for Stef honestly
So happy for Andrey 😊
The happy smile 🥺
Did Rublev forget to shake the umps hand?!
I thought that too haha!
All these guys from cold places are godly indoors. They don't need the sun to shine lol
Both my favorite players gone. Alright Fritz, take it home
Here’s to the boy who thought he didn’t belong. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
😭😭😭 He did it!
BWEHHHHHH
BWEH vs JAAAAA!
Lovely at the net.
Congrats Andrey! Well deserved!
BWEEHHH!!
ANDREYYY <3
I am so Happy for Rublev idk he got that big looser vibe i’m Just happy seeing him win
Yass Rublev, congrats on your first WTF SF!
Yes Rublev!!!
Андрюхаааааааа!!!!!!
boi
When Rublev’s playing but he’s not the one imploding, what is this sorcery
Even Apostolos telling mum to be quiet
Stef basically played perfect in the first set, had a hiccup in the second, and then completely imploded in the third. Go BWEH!!
Incredible comeback from Rublev after that first set.
lol and this is why i never got tired of the big 3 winning...we really have to look forward to an era of mentally weak players
its not mental lol, backhand is just extremely unproductive, he cant change directions with it
Honestly, it's kind of more entertaining
Stef ending number 3 this year with Apostolos in his box every game must be a bigger achievement than winning a Grand Slam. I would have thrown my racket every game at him if I had him in my box. Impressive tbh
No offense but Tsitisipas' family is toxic as shit
Rublev's kind of gone god mode to be honest
This is the fourth round robin match not to feature a tie break, and the first three set match not to feature a tie break. With these guys on this surface? Didn’t see that one coming. Very good win for Rublev. Can’t wait to watch the adorable (Djokovic voice) Ruuuuuuuu players go at it.
Feel so bad for Tsitsipas… his parents think they are helping him
This match has not gone the way I expected
The people behind Stef’s box are giggling like crazy at his parents’ antics